COmanage Call 8-Jan-2010
*Attending*
Heather Flanagan, Stanford (chair)
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
R.L. "Bob" Morgan, Internet2
Michael Gettes, MIT
Jim Leous, Penn State
Chris Hubing, Penn State
Ann West, Internet2
Renee Frost, Internet2
Steve Olshansky, Internet2
Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 (scribe)
*New Action Items*
[AI] (Ken) will ask TomB about getting the new Grouper Lite UI installed in COmanage.
[AI] (Everyone) provide ideas to Ken about what to request for COmanage in the STCI grant submission.
[AI] (Jim) will arrange logistics for the tech writer and contact Renee with details
*Carry Over Action Items*
[AI] (Ken) will follow up with Shilen about domesticating Adobe Connect.
[AI] (Danno) will contact U. Minnesota about domesticating Adobe Connect.
[AI] (Ken) will email the COmanage-dev group explaining how they can join the CollabIdM list.
[AI] (Heather) will resubmit the request for COmanage service for the Ivy+ Infrastructure.
[AI] (Michael, Heather, SteveO & StevenC) will work on solving issues with OpenMeetings.
**Discussion*
*Update from the Dutch*
Ken forwarded an email update from the Dutch, including a link to a Collaboration Infrastructure report from SURFnet.http://www.surfnet.nl/Documents/indi-2009-07-020%20(Report%20Collaboration%20Infrastructure).pdf
There is a section on OpenSocial in the SURFnet Collaboration Infrastructure report, and OpenSocial will also be discussed at the CSG meeting in San Diego.
http://www.stonesoup.org/meetings/1001/agenda1001.html
Ken will have a chance to talk with Niels at the TF-Mobility and Network Middleware Meeting in Vienna in February.
http://www.terena.org/activities/tf-mobility/meetings/21/
*COmanage and Foodle*
Ken is pleased that Foodle has been integrated into COmanage. It is understood that this integration only works with IdPs supporting SAML 2 or IdPs properly configured with metadata and software.
Ken noted that persuading sites to upgrade to SAML2 is one of the proposed goals for Federations in 2010.
Q: Is it possible to drag a group to Foodle and have that populate the list of names to fill out the calendaring? This capability interests a prominent science VO he has been talking with.
A: Not sure that this is possible.
*Grouper Lite UI *
Ken: How do we go about incorporating the new Grouper 1.5 simplified UI into COmanage?
Heather stated that Michael's time is very limited and there is a need for other technical people working on COmanage.
Possibly someone on the Grouper team could install Grouper 1.5 into COmanage.
[AI] (Ken) will ask TomB about getting the new Grouper Lite UI installed in COmanage.
*SDCI Grant*
Ken reported that two prominent NSF-funded VOs are interested in partnering with Internet2 for the SDCI grant submission. Both would want an FTE on their site as the integrator of the Internet2 Middleware products being deployed. More to come on this as it develops.
What resources should be requested specifically for COmanage in the grant?
[AI] (Everyone) provide ideas to Ken about what to request for COmanage in the SDCI grant submission.
Q: Are the potential VO partners interested in their own COmanage instance or COmanage as a service?
A: One is most interested in a VM, but a service offering might also meet their requirements. Probably the other would want to set up their own service, and is considering setting up their own small federation.
One of the primary campuses for one of the BOs does not do centralized IdM. They use Kerberos. Jim noted that non-R1 institutions are also part of that VO, partly because of graduate students and others from the original VO institutions who have moved elsewhere and remained involved in the project.
The other VO is developing a portal. The layering between a COmanage set of services and the science gateway portal will need to be determined.
*Tech Writer for COmanage*
[AI] (Jim) will arrange logistics for the tech writer and contact Renee with details
*Support Model *
Heather and SteveO have worked on a draft of a support model for COmanage as a service, the link for which was included in the call announcement. It is not yet public, pending further refinement.
Steve edited the draft to address Tom's concerns about who will have free access.
There may be a need to specify what applications sites will receive with COmanage. Can organizations get their own favorite wiki or their own type of application? How do we attach a cost to that if it involves additional integration work?
The tiered pricing models should be tied to number of user facing applications. We need to incorporate the idea that integrating one application can require more work than integration another application.
SteveO updated the wiki with the suggestions agreed upon during the discussion.
Next Meeting: Friday, 22-Jan-2010 at 2pm ET