NTAC
9/2/08
In attendance: Jeff Bartig, Jeff Boote, Eric Boyd, David Crowe, Michael Lambert, Ken Lindahl, Chris Robb, Paul Schopis, Martin Swany, Steve Wallace, Linda Winkler, David Wood, Matt Zekauskas
Agenda
1. Update from Internet2 (Chris Robb)
2. Update from AOAC (Paul Schopis)
3. Update from Peering Working Group (Jeff Bartig)
4. Report from RHCPP Working Group (David Crowe)
5. Report from DCN Working Group (Linda Winkler)
6. Report from Routing Policy Working Group (David Farmer)
7. Update from Performance Working Group (Carla Hunt)
8. Update on ARIN issues (Dale Finkelson)
9. Update from naval observatory (David Farmer/Jose Domingues)
10. Phoebus/Bulk Transport (Steven Senger and Chet Ruszczyk)
11. Information & Infrastructure (Martin Swany)
12. Chair nominations (Michael Lambert)
1. Internet2 Update
Chris Robb mentioned that the Chi-NY-DC path is working well after the recent upgrades. He went on to say that compact flash has been added to get the next Junos update loaded and it didn't go well. Juniper is looking into it. The engineers are going out this week to NY to migrate switch to central meet-me room. The Seattle move from Qwest facilities to PNWGP is completed and the Ciena has been moved from El Paso to Seattle. The waves that previously terminated in El Paso have been moved to Albuquerque. Internet2 is working on upgrading the capacity between CPS in Chicago and the T640.
2. Update from AOAC
Paul mentioned that several topics to be covered at the connector principle meeting were reviewed with the AOAC.
3. Update from Peering Group
Jeff Bartig mentioned that the NY switch move and the Seattle move will result in increased capacity on CPS. The Chicago move will also provide additional CPS capacity. The IPv6 peers move will begin again soon. Dave Reese expressed concern regarding communicating working group discussions to the full community. Paul mentioned that he would like to make this a topic of the f2f. He mentioned that such an issue to be considered by the broader community would be posted to the wiki and to ask the community to comment. Ken Lindahl mentioned that the threshold for sending it to the larger community would be when there is an operational impact.
4. Update from RHCPP Group
David reported having some challenge in getting participation outside of the core Internet2 group. David mentioned that he would be happy to add any interested participants to the list.
5. Update from the DCN Working Group
Linda Winkler reported that the group now has regularly scheduled conference calls every other week on Monday (beginning on September 8, 2008) at 4:00 EDT. There was good attendance on first call. Discussion ensued regarding the pending DCN software release. A number of the working group participants have been asked to help with the testing. After the FMM, there will be a date chosen for the transfer to the new software release because the group would like to use the new software release at SC08. There was also discussion regarding business model concerns and Linda Winkler and Bill Owens will create some strawman ideas to generate discussion. The group agreed that there are security issues related to DCN. Some are important to tackle now and others require only monitoring. This will be covered on the next call.
6. Update on routing policy policy group
Dave Farmer was unavailable. Michael Lambert indicated that there hasn't been a call recently.
7. Update from performance group
Carla Hunt provided the following update:
Based on the first meeting at Joint Techs in July, the performance working group organized into three task forces: (1) reviewing LHC recommendations and adjusting for RONs, (2) Layer 1/Optical Monitoring, and (3) Access Requirements and access policies for the community (in relation to the perfSonar framework). It is not too late to participate in one of the task forces. Carla has invited folks via the mailing list to sign up for task forces and to make travel arrangements for our next face-to-face meeting at the Fall Member Meeting. Carla has also initiated a Doodle poll to schedule a monthly performance work group meeting via teleconference. Responses to the poll have been fairly limited. Simultaneously, Carla has been working with the chairs of each task force to meet with their respective task force and begin work. To that end, Ken Lindahl who is the chair of the LHC recommendations task force, is organizing a task force meeting for next week (Thursday, September 4, 2008). Carla is in conversations with Dan Magorian, the chair of the Layer 1 task force.
8. Update on ARIN issues
David Farmer has been nominated for the ARIN advisory council. Michael Lambert has also been nominated for the ARIN advisory council. There was discussion regarding how to communicate ARIN information to the wider community. Paul mentioned that there is a proposal regarding the sale of IPv4 space as that space decreases.
9. Update on naval observatory
David Farmer and Jose Domingues were unavailable.
10. Phoebus/Bulk Transport
Steve Senger and Chet Ruszczyk were unavailable.
11. Information & Infrastructure (Martin Swany)
Martin Swany indicated that there is a move to have DCN services use what was previously known as perfsonar services. The information and infrastructure group now has a wiki and a mailing list. There will be a meeting of the group held at the FMM.
12. Chair nominations
Because Paul Schopis has been nominated for NTAC Chair, Michael Lambert has volunteered to be the recipient of additional nominations in keeping with the guidelines for chair nominations. Michael mentioned that, currently, Paul is the only nomination for the NTAC chair and indicated that additional nominations will be accepted until the NTAC meeting at the FMM. At the NTAC meeting, Michael will call for additional nominations and a vote will be taken.
13. Other topics
Paul mentioned that there has been some discussion in the community regarding the network after the current network agreements expire. Some discussion have occurred regarding the possibility of using RON assets in the next generation of the network. He asked that the NTAC consider if this is viable and, if so, to suggest working models.