NTAC
11/6/07
In attendance: Jeff Bartig, Cort Buffington, Brian Cort, Dave Farmer, Michael Lambert, John Moore, Jeff Schiller, Paul Schopis, Jerry Sobieski, John Streck, Steve Wallace, David Wood
Agenda
1. Update from AOAC
2. Update from Transport Services Working Group
3. Update from Peering Working Group
4. Update on ARIN issues
5. Update on naval observatory
6. Network Description Language (NDL)
7. Other topics
1. Update from AOAC
Paul Schopis, a member of the AOAC provided an update. The first meeting of the AOAC was held at the FMM. Dave Jent was been elected chair. AOAC has indicated that they would like to interact with the NTAC in the way that was described in the NAG.
2. Update from Transport Services Working Group
John Moore mentioned that he and Jerry had a conversation regarding the group. They haven't had time to adequately address the goals of the group. They would like to suspend the group's activities until January and they propose revisiting the goals for the group at the Joint Techs meeting in January of 2008. Jerry added that they don't want to disband the group entirely and that they will delineate milestones for the group in January with the idea to produce the report on the services by June of 2008. Jerry mentioned that the group would like to have broad participation by the NTAC. Cort mentioned that the working group is only focused on the report as people continue to use the services. Paul mentioned that the AOAC is meeting every other week and that will inform the direction of the group.
3. Update from Peering Working Group
Jeff Bartig mentioned that the peering working group will meet the third Thursday of the month. He spoke with Caren when they were both at NANOG and they have a couple of topics to discuss at the next meeting. Steve added that he has collected enough information from the Global NOC to put together a document that recommends a path to be considered for the v6 migration. Components of the report will be what the options are for servers and making them available and helping entities using Abilene prefix to get provider-independent prefixes in a way that doesn't interrupt the connectivity of any organization. Steve will send the document by next week and would like to have comments from the NTAC. Dave Farmer noted that Minnesota has come up on the CPS through CIC/OmniPoP.
4. Update on ARIN Issues
Dave Farmer indicated that, as was discussed at the FMM, there is the ARIN legacy document and Internet2 agreed to help let the community know about the legacy IPv4 issues. Dale has created a draft document that is appropriate for CIOs, etc. describing the legacy issue. Jeff Schiller noted that ARIN has posted two legacy documents—one at the beginning of Oct and one at the end of October and members of the NTAC were encouraged to review the documents and determine whether their organization will sign or not. Not only is higher ed affected by this, but state government is also affected. ARIN currently maintains the registry as well as providing for inverse DNS and whois database. Discussion ensued regarding address space allocation as well as database services and whether ARIN is the appropriate place for these functions.
Linda will check to see if ARIN has contacted internet2.
Paul asked that Dale's group to meet and come back with some recommendations. The group includes: Dale Finkelson, Jeff Schiller, Dave Farmer, Mark Johnson, Cas D'Angelo, Michael Lambert.
5. Update on naval observatory
No updates were available.
6. Network Description Language (NDL)
Paul has been looking at NDL for his own network. The sheer volume of documentation required for his network is causing him to realize that there is a scalability issue. Efforts are taking place in Europe and Jerry has contact information of people using NDL. Paul asked if there is interest in NDL on the part of others in the NTAC.