NTAC
12/2/08
In attendance: Eric Boyd, Brian Court, Russ Hobby, Ken Lindahl, Caren Litvanyi, Paul Love, John Moore, Ana Preston, Chris Robb, Linda Roos, Jeff Schiller, Paul Schopis, Joe St Sauver, Rick Summerhill, Christian Todorov, Steve Wallace, David Wood
Agenda
1. Housekeeping (Paul Schopis)
a) getting someone to do the brief "This is your NTAC" session aimed at new tech people in the community who may not be aware of the activities of the NTAC
b) Decision needs to be made on the RHCPP group
c) Does someone want to take on the naval observatory stuff?
d) Talking about having a vice chair
2. Community feedback on operational issues (Ana Preston/Paul Schopis/Dave Reese)
3. Update from Internet2 (Chris Robb)
4. Update from AOAC (Paul Schopis)
5. Update from Peering Working Group (Jeff Bartig)
6. Report from RHCPP Working Group (David Crowe)
7. Report from DCN Working Groups (Linda Winkler)
8. Report from Routing Policy Working Group (David Farmer)
9. Update on Performance Working Group (Carla Hunt)
10. Update on ARIN issues (Dale Finkelson)
11. Update on naval observatory (David Farmer/Jose Domingues)
12. Phoebus/Bulk Transport (Steven Senger and Chet Ruszczyk)
13. Information & Infrastructure (Martin Swany)
1. "This is your NTAC" session at JT
Paul indicated Chris Robb and Caren Litvanyi had written to him with an idea for a session at JT to introduce new people in the technical community to NTAC. He also indicated that he won't be in attendance at JT and asked for a volunteer to lead the session. It was mentioned that Paul could do the session remotely. Paul asked for those interested in leading the brief session to send an email to him.
2. RHCPP group
Paul indicated that the RHCPP group was originally under pressure to get going quickly because of a situation in Oregon. He explained that, in Oregon, as well as in other places, there are some small ISPs that don't have the ability to separate their commercial routes from the Internet2 routes. Steve Wallace indicated that the magnitude of the issue hasn't changed. Paul suggested having a separate call with David Crowe to determine how to proceed. He also mentioned that it might be a good idea to request that Mike McGill ask for participation on one of his Friday calls.
3. Naval Observatory
The group suggested sending a note to the NTAC indicating that the working group will be disbanded and see if anyone would like to reconvene it.
4. NTAC Vice Chair
Paul indicated that, at the FMM, George Loftus suggested that the NTAC consider having a vice chair. Discussion ensued. It would be possible to elect a vice chair who would be responsible for running the meeting when the chair is unavailable. Another possibility is to have a "chair-in-training" as vice chair.
5. Community feedback on operational issues
Neither Paul nor Ana has received any information. Paul reiterated that the information requested is timelines/processes for providing information on upcoming operational changes. Paul will send another note requesting input.
6. Internet2 update
There was a change freeze prior to and during SC so not much has occurred since the last call. Internet2 staff moved some of the commercial peers to the v6 vrf. Internet2 staff haven't made any design changes.
7. AOAC Update
Paul mentioned that the AOAC is reviewing models and fees for a second 10 gig port. He went on to say that the AOAC had heard an update on the DCN working group activities.
8. Peering Group
Jeff mentioned that the group has received updates from the Internet2 staff regarding CPS. The group did not meet in November.
9. DCN Working Group
Linda Winkler mentioned that the DCN Working Group had a productive call on 12/1/08. The DCN fee model was presented. Chris and Eric had spent some time pulling together some potential fee models as well as some models for recovering the fees. The DCN group will meet on 12/8/08 to continue to discuss the information presented. There were questions regarding who the end users will be and want to ensure that the models fit the end users. Linda added that statistics are now available. The format of the statistics tool is under review and feedback is welcome.
10. Routing Policy Working Group
Dave Farmer was not available for the call.
11. Performance Working Group
Carla Hunt was not available for the call.
12. Update on ARIN issues
Dale Finkelson was not available for the call.
13. Update on naval observatory
Neither David Farmer nor Jose Domingues was available for the call.
14. Phoebus/Bulk Transport
Neither Steven Senger nor Chet Ruszczyk was available for the call.
15. Information & Infrastructure
Martin Swany was not available for the call.