CTAB call of September 8, 2020


  • David Bantz, University of Alaska (chair) 
  • Pål Axelsson, SUNET 
  • Rachana Ananthakrishnan, Globus, University of Chicago   
  • Tom Barton, University Chicago and Internet2, ex-officio 
  • Richard Frovarp,  North Dakota State 

  • Eric Goodman, UCOP - TAC Representative to CTAB 
  • Jon Miner, University of Wisc - Madison 
  • John Pfeifer, University of Maryland  
  • Marc Wallman, North Dakota State University, InCommon Steering Rep, ex-officio 
  • Chris Whalen, Research Data and Communication Technologies 
  • Johnny Lasker, Internet2
  • Albert Wu, Internet2
  • Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 
  • Jessica Fink, Internet2
  • Dean Woodbeck Internet2


  • Mary Catherine Martinez, InnoSoft (vice chair)
  • Brett Bieber, University of Nebraska 
  • Ercan Elibol, Florida Polytech Institute
  • Chris Hable, University of Michigan
  • Jule Ziegler,  Leibniz Supercomputing Centre
  • Robert Zybeck, Portland Community College
  • Ann West, Internet2
  • Kevin Morooney, Internet2


Baseline Expectations V2

  • Review announcement message for the consultation 
  • Consultation on Baseline Expectations 2.0
    • A few edits were suggested and implemented for the announcement, including making it clearer what community members are being asked to do for the consultation
  • Webinar to introduce BEv2 Consultation - Wed., Sept. 23 at 2pm ET
    • This takes place of IAM Online for September
    • Hope most of CTAB can join the Wed. Sept. 23 webinar
    • Same date as Trusted CI meeting, but it’s OK
    • Dean:  calling this a discussion versus a webinar

Impact Analysis

  • InCommon Operations is doing/planning several steps:
      • Step 1 - one time Qualys scanning and metadata check to establish baseline - for 9/14 InCommon Steering call
      • By Q1 2021 - automated daily tally of adherence stat, similar to those from BE1
      • Hope to aggregate scan results into organizations and correlate the contacts with the scan results
      • Shannon working on a summary update from the entity scanning 
      • Looking at aggregating scores up to the entity level
      • If you get a spread of As and Cs , your score will be C
      • Overall, CTAB says we are good with the Impact analysis as reported by Albert
    • FAQ - to be built over the course of consultation - answer frequently asked questions from consultation period, the link to FAQ will get added to the consultation page

  • Handling feedback during BEv2 consultation 
    • We encourage all feedback  to be made on the Consultation wiki page
      • If a community member comments on BEv2 in the InCommon  participants email list,
        do we ask them to add comment on the community consultation page?
    • If we end up needing to transcribe some community comments onto the consultation wiki, we could capture the original comment text in the google doc

    • Suggestion that we wait for consultation to close on October 19 before we start considering the input 
    • There are two CTAB calls plus a Sept 23 webinar before the BEv2 Consultation ends on Oct 19
    • Need to wrap up by InCommon Steering on Nov. 2
    • Dean has developed a communication plan to promote awareness of the consultation, including the Sept 23 webinar and emails

Beyond BE2 - how do we propel the federation to better support research collaboration?

  • MFA - signaling and enforcement
  • Assurance beyond signaling MFA - REFEDS Assurance?
  • Mapping to/from US Federal Government requirements
  • make attribute release groups (entity categories) useful?
  • A Baseline + type program, e.g., Research Collaboration Ready, where we can specify more focused requirements,  
  • Comments
    • Can CTAB reach out to top vendors of commercial solutions
    • Would top vendors (OKTA, Microsoft) like to join us for a meeting?

CTAB nominations for 2021   - Jessica

    • 4 Members schedules to roll off CTAB at end of 2020 - intention to renominate? Email David, MC, Jessica
      • David Bantz - Planning to renominate
      • Chris Hable
      • Mary-Catherine Martinez
      • Jon Miner - Planning to renominate
    • Edits to this year’s Announcement for InCommon Advisory Committee Nominations. Due by September 28th.   CTAB members, Please feel free to edit this.
    • Review the Annual Member Cycle for Committees
    • Will work to discuss & finalize at the 9/22 CTAB meeting
    • As we think about people to nominate, consider the CTAB work coming after BEv2

Next CTAB call: Tuesday, Sept 22, 2020


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