Introduction

Welcome from George Laskaris, NJEdge.net:

Working on federation pilots for K12 and community colleges has been a highly collaborative effort. The agenda for this workshop includes hearing from the current pilots, discussing partnership and business models, hearing about interfederation, and talking about getting started with a new pilot

Comments from Shel Waggener, Internet2 Senior Vice President, Net+ Services:  The Quilt InCommon Pilots have been doing important work. Looking ahead, we will want to transition from pilots to wider production. Many educational institutions lack the resources/depth of staff to handle identity infrastructure. Should we should be thinking about architecting “identity as a service,” particularly for small colleges, community colleges and K12?  It would be good to develop a more turnkey approach to identity management and federation. Does it make sense to develop a service that the regionals can offer? Or is it better to work on hardening standards and providing guidance and then have everyone offer their own unique service ?

Two paths:

  1. We establish best practices
  2. We offer a service

Please share your thoughts with John Krienke, Chief Operating Officer of InCommon and  Steve Zoppi Associate Vice President, Services Integration and Architecture, both of whom are here at the workshop.  Another challenge for our community is doing a better job of working with commercial providers and together defining standards that are effective for the education environment. 

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Presentations from the Pilots

Merit Network 

Slides  (David Dennis)

MCNC

slides  presented by Mark Scheible

OARnet

slides  presented by Paul Schopis

Q: Radius is a requirement for  eduroam . Are the schools already running Radius? 

A: No OARNet must stand up Radius for the schools. 

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MDREN

slides  Presented by Guy Jones

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Comment: You covered a lot of ground. Why didn't districts sign contracts w Fischer International? 

A: Some districts hired Fischer International on their own without the contract. Some schools hired other vendors. Some schools did it themselves. 

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Q:: Did the schools find Shibboleth easy to install?

A: In some cases they found it easy, in others they got local help.

Q: Is there interest from K12?

A: Yes, there is some interest from K12 in a common authentication structure. K12 in Maryland is limited in using cloud services. Must go through Annapolis.  InCommon does a vetting process and the small schools may not be ready for vetting and controls. We are missing attractive applications, but we are close to working with NJVID

Illinois

slides

Presented by Bernie A'cs from University of Illinois and Jim Petersen from Illini Cloud

Questions:

Q: You use the portal to tie in the identity? For the school districts it's a hybrid ?

A: The portal is a conceptual space, This is an excuse to say we can make web based SSO work . We say look it's a cake, take a bite. Keep a low threshold for adoption. We tell the school district, you don't have to change what you are doing. Just play in this sandbox. We don't store anything locally. We don't house or cache or persist. We depend on their system to be the authoritative source. 

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Q: What will you do with the product?  Roll it out to Illinois?  Other states? 

A: Pleased to have collaborations across state lines. But generally if you cross the border it’s an issue  We must say this is bound by the state boundaries 

it's open source though some of the affiliate work is not open source 

Nebraska

slides presented by Mike Danahy and Scott Isaacson

Q: Shel: regarding engaging the state who are working on federation for their own agencies, should the Pilots send a letter to the states saying that federation is underway?  

Comment: Could be  a good strategic move, the message must be thoughtful  and must explain what EDU brings to the table re schema definition and how is that applicable to the broader audience. What the pilots are doing is good press and is advantageous to anyone. working at the states 

We don't way we will solve this problem for the state. Just to explain what we are doing for EDU 

Utah

presentation by Jim Stewart 

Comments:

Partnership Business Models

slides

presented by Mark Scheible, MCNC and Mark Johnson, MCNC

Interfederation

presented by Paul Caskey

Applications

slides

Presented by Bernie A'cs from University of Illinois and Jim Petersen from Illini Cloud 

Discussion of partnership business models and Next Steps

Summary of Questions and Issues from the Workshop so far

Discussion

Next Steps

[AI] (Pilot-Def Working Group) reach out to organizations that want to participate in new pilots (KINBER, MOREnet, LONI, WiscNet)

[AI] (Pilot-Def Working Group) look at which regionals, in addition to MCNC, MOREnet, and NJEDge are interesting in working through Model 4 issues.

[AI] (Pilot-Def Working Group -> Federation Partnership Models sub-group) Develop training requirements for regionals interested in Model 4 (Full Service Steward).  The aim of the training would be to provide guidance on issues such as RA processes and metadata handling. Note: this action item will be done in conjunction with the Model development and implementation.

Link to Getting Started With Your Pilot: http://bit.ly/1jt2rXd

Action Items

see https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/InCQuiltFed/Action+Items+from+2014+Workshop