NTAC Call
April 5, 2011
In attendance: Jeff Bartig, Brian Cashman, Marianne Chitwood, PJ Clayton, Brian Court, Dale Finkelson, Shuman Huque, Akbar Kara, Tom Knab, Andrew Lee, Tom Knoeller, Michael Lambert, John Moore, Bill Owens, Dave Pokorney, Linda Roos, Jeff Schiller, Chris Robb, Shannon Spurling, Steve Wallace, David Wood
Akbar Kara led the call due to Cas D'Angelo's absence.
1. Updates
a. Working Groups
i. Reports from groups formed based on CAI document
NTAC input to connector agreement (John Moore)
Operations (Marianne Chitwood)
Services (Dave Pokorney)
Policy (Steve Wallace)
John sent document that provides input to the connector agreement. The latest iteration of the document summarizes the key points and integrates the sections from the three working groups. John indicated that the group added input to the document from the comments that were received. John indicated that the group plans to submit the document to the Task Force on Community Anchor Network Economic Models. Further, John proposed that the comment period be open until April 14th so that the document could be provided to the Task Force by the April 15th deadline. John asked for an endorsement from the group contingent on any comments received by April 14th.
Comments from the AOAC indicated that the recent updated paper is an improvement. Internet2 staff expressed their appreciation to the authors of the paper. John expressed gratitude to those who made comments on the paper.
ii. Layer 2 service (Michael Lambert)
Michael indicated that a draft of the layer 2 document was sent by Cas. There was a request that the layer 2 service be open flow-based. The document requires some additional editing. Cas has asked for an email comment period through Monday, April 11 to be sent to the AOAC by Wednesday, April 13.
There was a question regarding whether the layer 2 service could be used on separate lambdas rather than using layer 3. The matter was covered briefly on page 4. There was further discussion regarding cost between layer 2 or layer 3. The group may defer the cost discussion to Internet2 staff as full costs are not known by the working group.
iii. IPv6 (Michael Lambert)
The v6 working group has been having regular calls. During the call last week, the discussion focused on v6 day. It appears that the Internet2 backbone as well as most of the regional networks are ready for v6 day. There has been technical discussions regarding putting v6 to v4 translators in the next network.
It appears that that APNIC is doing to run out of v4 addresses in the next 16 days.
iv. Peering & Routing (Jeff Bartig)
Jeff indicated that TR-CPS staff are working on equipment deployment (the MX routers are being used for TR-CPS nodes).
v. Information Services (Martin Swany)
Martin was unable to join the call.
vi. ION (Linda Winkler)
Linda was unable to join the call.
vii. Multicast (Richard Machida)
Richard was unable to join the call.
viii. Performance (Carla Hunt & Chris Hawkinson)
Carla was unable to join the call.
ix. Transport (Steve Senger & Chet Ruszczyk)
Steve and Chet are unable to join the call.
b. Internet2 Update (Chris Robb)
Internet2 has been focused on the network build-out. IP router code updates have occurred recently and went well. There have been ecently pulled out the LA MX960 and was put into the LA TR-CPS node. The Atlanta router has been upgraded.
c. AOAC Update (John Moore)
The Architecture and Operations Advisory Council met on 9 and 23 March 2011. During the 9 March call, the group welcomed Sue Landskroener as their administrative coordinator. The AOAC heard reports on the network upgrade including the installation of the Juniper T1600 routers for the IP network and moving the Juniper MX960 routers for use by TR-CPS. A report was presented by the NTAC on the layer 2 project as well as the three groups related to the NTAC CAI document (http://www.internet2.edu/network/documents/NTAC%20CAI%20Service%20Attributes%2010-25-10.pdf). The fee subcommittee (George Loftus, David Gift, Roy Campbell and Ron Hutichins) reported on their first meeting in which they discussed the principles for determining the wave fees. Internet2 staff will provide some wave fee models to the fee subcommittee for their review. The fee subcommittee will also review connector fees prior to the wave and connector fees being presented to the full AOAC prior to the fees being presented to the Internet2 Board. Finally, the seven Internet2 priorities were reviewed with a special focus on how the priorities interface with the work of the AOAC. The AOAC will continue to discuss the priorities as their work proceeds.
During the 23 March call, the AOAC reviewed a document created by the NTAC subcommittee focused on Community Anchor issues. The NTAC's document contains proposed input to the next Internet2 connector agreement that might codify standard practices for connecting networks. The AOAC reviewed the NTAC's input and is deliberating as to how to incorporate the NTAC's work into future Internet2 policies. During its April meetings, the AOAC will review proposals for fees for new services on the new Internet2 network, including new wave and connector fees. The community is invited to the open AOAC session on 20 April, 4:30-5:30, Crystal Gateway Marriott, Salon A during the Internet2 Spring Member Meeting.
d. ARIN (Dave Farmer & Michael Lambert)
Michael Lambert provided an ARIN update. There is an ARIN meeting next week. It is very important for our community to be involved in ARIN business and those on the call were encouraged to join the meeting remotely (www.arin.net). There isn't anything related to legacy issues on the upcoming meeting agenda. Six draft policies will be discussed at the meeting.
4. Other business
NTAC face-to-face meeting during the Internet2 Spring Member Meeting
Tuesday, April 19, noon-1:00 EDT
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