NTAC
6/3/08
In attendance: Jeff Bartig, Eric Boyd, Cort Buffington, Carla Hunt, Michael Lambert, Dan Magorian, John Moore, Linda Roos, Paul Schopis, Rick Summerhill, Rob Vietzke, Steve Wallace, David Wood
Agenda
1. Internet2 update
2. Update from AOAC
3. Update from the Peering Working Group
4. Update from RHCPP working group
5. Update from DCN working group
6. Update from Routing Policy Working Group
7. Update from the Performance Working Group
8. Update from the ARIN Working Group
9. Update from the Bulk Transport Working Group
10. Update from the Information and Infrastructure Working Group
11. Other topics
1. Internet2 update
Steven Wallace provided the update on behalf of Chris Robb.
-Charlotte Install
Suite build completed two weeks ago. Level(3) Infinera equipment was configured as a regen site, but is now a redundant OADM site, like the rest of the locations with full POPs. The installation of the CIena node and associated equipment will occur on June 5 with a hot-cut of the Ciena ATLA-WASH circuit into two circuits: ATLA-CHAR, CHAR-WASH.
-NEWY-CHIC backbone circuit
Currently, the NEWY-CHIC OC-192 circuit is void of traffic under normal network operation since the IGP weight is distance based and higher than the sum of CHIC-WASH and WASH-NEWY. We're looking at either lowering the IGP weight, or (more likely) putting R&E on one path and CPS on the other. Internet2 is interested in hearing the NTAC's opinions.
-IP Prefix Approval Streamlining
We kicked off the development effort to move to an audit-based model whereby the connectors would request approvals from the NOC and they would be immediately added on a provisional basis. Internet2 staff would audit the prefixes every week and raise any concerns. This work will be done using the GRNOC database so there will be a historical record of prefixes associated with each participant.
Discussion ensued. NTAC would prefer to review a plan proposed by staff and the NOC rather than suggesting a plan. Internet2 will provide the NTAC with a process for the IP Prefix Approval and capacity planning (as related to the NEWY-CHIC backbone circuit).
2. Update from AOAC
Paul indicated that he raised a question regarding the coordination of working groups and reporting structures. All of the councils are trying to determine how to proceed. Paul consulted with many people and the consensus is that decisions regarding the working groups will be slow in coming as the councils work through other issues. The working groups will be created as necessary. Any legacy groups will be invited to participate as part of NTAC.
3. Update from the Peering Working Group
Jeff Bartig mentioned that the group held a call in May on which they talked about IPv6 transition as well as the current discussions between CPS and transit rail. The latter talks are occurring at a high level at this point and Internet2 has been provided with three recommendations by the Council chairs:
-keep talking
-prepare set of options sans conclusions
-bring to public forum as soon as possible
Jeff encouraged people to contact him with any recommendations regarding the activities of the peering working group.
4. Update from RHCPP working group
David Crowe was unavailable.
5. Update from DCN working group
Linda Winkler was unable to attend today. Eric Boyd indicated that there are 40 subscribers to the DCN working group list. Linda is asking for input to the charter and other working group topics and will be encouraging group members to comment. Eric went on to report on DCN activities in general. There are nine complete connectors, one in progress and some others expressing interest. Eric indicated that Internet2 is starting discussions among LHC community and recently had several staff in attendance at a recent LHC conference. Discussion at that conversation indicates that the traffic from Tier 3 to Tier1's or Tier 2's in Europe is unsolved and there is much room for experimentation.
6. Update from the Routing Policy Working Group
Dave Farmer was unable to attend the call. Michael Lambert indicated that there has been no activity since the last meeting.
7. Update from the Performance Working Group
Carla Hunt reported that she plans to finalize the working group mailing list by end of week and will hold a meeting at JT. Note that this group has changed its name from Measurement Working Group to Performance Working Group
8. Update from the ARIN Working Group
Dale Finkelson was unable to attend the call.
9. Update from the Bulk Transport Working Group
Eric Boyd reported that there has not been much progress since the SMM.
10. Update from the Information and Infrastructure Working Group
Martin Swany was unable to attend the call as he was attending the OGF meeting where the major topics of discussion include protocols for topology and service discovery. There has been recent discussions on how to harmonize with standard language used in Europe (NDL) with the standard language used in the US (NMML). A new new working group (NMC) being proposed at OGF meeting and Eric is hopeful that there is progress as a result of the OGF meeting.
11. Other topics
Paul mentioned that he would like to convene an activity for working group chairs at the upcoming JT meeting and asked that the chairs send email to Paul to express interest in such an activity.