NTAC F2F meeting
November 2, 2010, 5:30-6:30 ET
In attendance: Jeff Bartig, Cort Buffington, Brian Cashman, PJ Clayton, David Crowe, Cas D'Angelo, James Deaton, Leo Donnelly, Dave Farmer, Dale Finkelson, Michael Lambert, George Loftus, Paul Love, Richard Machida, Brian Mollo, John Moore, Dave Pokorney, Jeff Reel, Chris Robb, Linda Roos, Chet Rusczyk, Jeff Schiller, Paul Schopis, Steve Senger, Chris Spears, Joe St Sauver, Scott Taylor, Steve Wallace, Jason Zurawski
Agenda
1. Announcement of new NTAC Vice Chair (John Moore)
Akbar Kara and Dave Pokorney were nominated for NTAC Vice Chair. At the noon deadline, there was a tie vote so John asked for those in the room and on the phone to vote by 6:00 EDT the day of the meeting. Akbar Kara was elected the next NTAC vice chair. He will serve for one year as vice chair and then become chair.
2. Updates on NTAC projects associated with BTOP
a. Service Attributes document (http://www.internet2.edu/network/documents/NTAC%20CAI%20Service%20Attributes%2010-25-10.pdf)
This document was created by John Moore and Bill Owens. John asked how services might be managed, how operational support capability will be scaled and how new regulations will be incorporated into the way that business is done. John encouraged NTAC members to share this document with colleagues. Steve talked about the open interconnect requirement.
John asked for a group to explore each of the points:
Services
• How do we provision and manage a new mix of end-to-end services?
o Traffic prioritization, high reliability, bandwidth guarantees, SLAs
o Flexible mix of advanced services
o Define the value proposition for all constituents
Operations
• How do we scale our operational support capability, end-to-end?
o Expanded and extended support models
o Modifications to transparency stance
o Operational impact of new regulations
Policy
• How do we incorporate new regulations into the way we do business?
o Harmonize open access and net neutrality policies
o Operationalize more complex relationship matrix
o Revisit community stance on lawful intercept and content security
Dave Pokorney agreed to lead a group to look at the Services points and David Crowe volunteered to be part of the service group. Paul Schopis indicated that he would like to be part of the group to examine the policy issues. Both Steve Wallace (chair of policy) and Joe St Sauver are interested in the policy group. Chris Robb would be interested in serving on operations.
b. Report from Peering/Routing Subcommittee (https://wiki.internet2.edu/confluence/display/ntac/NTAC+Documents)
Jeff Bartig reported that the peering/routing group had a series of phone calls and the document listed above is a summary of those phone calls. Those on the calls were in agreement with the plans for the 100G backbone. There was a great deal of conversation regarding the 10G routers and what they could be used for---serve as substitute for Ciena, a research layer, etc. The group was not in favor of segregated, private network but understood that there may be a reason for that so the design should allow it. Chris mentioned the idea of having a needs assessment for the 10G router portion of the network. Many were in favor of postponing that decision until the need becomes apparent. There was a suggestion that the 10G routers be included in the architecture and to deploy them as necessary.
c. Update on optical RFP
The three responses to the optical RFP are being reviewed currently and the results will be shared with the AOAC on November 10. There was a request that a document about the optical equipment be shared at an appropriate time so that the community can review the process at some point in the future.
3. Layer 2 service
There is a request from the AOAC to review a layer 2 service. This service is envisioned to involve a small amount of overhead and to be inexpensive. There is a desire to use the MPLS infrastructure and not burn bandwidth. There was a desire to understand the difference between the proposed service and ION. Paul clarified that it would a static circuit, not using the ION infrastructure. Chris asked what level of oversubscription on this service would be allowed and most indicated that about 130-150% oversubscription would be acceptable. Dave Farmer asked for best effort but not "no effort".