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Minutes

Attending: Judith Bush, Janemarie Duh, Matthew Brookover, Heather Flanagan Eric Goodman, Mary McKee, Mark Rank, Matthew Economou, Keith Wessel, Eric Kool-Brown

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Baseline Expectations 2 update

TechExtra

TAC nominations reminder

  • Members of TAC with terms ending in 2020
    • Matt Brookover
    • Judith Bush
    • Heather Flanagan - happy to be re-nominated
    • Eric Kool-Brown

IdPaaS WG update

  • Have started a report. Resources are listed here: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/IDPAAS/IdPaaS+Home
  • Looking for TAC feedback on the report
    • There are four common integration models
    • Want to be sure to make recommendations that there is a third party that is thinking about this stuff all of the time.  
  • There are some who feel that the group ended up in a place they didn’t expect. One takeaway is that federation is not front-of-mind for those looking for an IdP as a Service. There is some hesitation to include federation as part of their plan. The report will address these concerns.
  • Two big conclusions
    • Recommend that InCommon consider creating an InC-ready IdP program - identify valid IdPaaS providers
    • For those who are not looking to change the campus SSO process or software, but are interested in a federation adapter model, recommend that InCommon prioritize development of the Federation Adapter space/market rather than (necessarily) tools. There are a number of existing tools in this space that could be evaluated and recognized as an easy entry point to federation participation.
  • TAC will do a review of the charter at the next meeting
  • Federation as “big and scary” is something that the Seamless Access project has also encountered. One idea is to put together some relevant contract language for campuses to use.
  • Charter was to look at “basic” and “plus” services - but there aren’t really levels - more may not be better - campuses may want a lightweight solution. Features that go beyond federation are not InCommon's expertise and there aren’t common needs among campuses. 

Wrapping up Subject Identifier comparison and transition strategy

  • Albert discussed a couple of questions he posted in the comparison document
  • Strategies for working with identifiers
    • Albert outlined main questions for IdPs to address: reuse, implementing persistent identifiers, migration of new identifiers, asserting multiple identifiers. Judith suggested addressing how to choose the right identifier to release. 
  • Eric G. - use of “persistent” may not be right, given the formal definition in the SAML NameID specs. Judith - the harder problem is non-reassignability.
  • Albert will work on revising the Strategies document, engaging Judith, Scott Cantor, and others for information/feedback.

Next Meeting -  Thursday, September 24, 2020