Performance Working Group Meeting of 15-October-2008
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Internet2 Fall Member Meeting 2008, New Orleans
Attendees:
Carla Hunt, (Chair)
Ken Lindahl, UC Berkeley
Ana Lucia De Moura, RNP Brazil
Yasuchi Kitamura, APAN
Shawn McKee, University of Michigan
Frank Van Lingen, Cal Tech
Sherilyn Evans (for Eric LuiLiu), CENIC
John T. Killebrew, NCREN
Chester Ruszczyk, MIT Haystack
Steven Senger, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
James Deaton, ONENET
Mark JohnsonJohnsonk, NCREN
Eric Boyd, Internet2
Andrew Lake, Internet2
Matt Zekauskas, Internet2
Susan Evett, Internet2
Jeff Boote, Internet2 (flywheel)
Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 (scribe)
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Task Force | Chair | STATUS |
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Campus and RONs Requirements | Ken Lindahl ken lindahl, UC Berkeley, | This task force has started working on a guidelines document. |
| Dan Magorian, Mid-Atlantic Crossroads (MAX) | Dan could not be here at the Fall Member Meeting |
Access Requirements | Jeff Boote, | Not much activity yet on this task force |
Update from Campus and RON Requirements/Best Practices Task Force
Ken ken reported that the Campus and RON's Requirements/Best Practices (BCP) task force now includes several members and is eager to add more members. Information is found at:
https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/PerformanceWG/BCP+-+Task+Force
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Work is underway on Document #1.
Details on Campus/RON Guidelines Document
The BCP task force took the LHC best practices document (http://code.google.com/p/perfsonar-ps/wiki/Tier2BCP) as a starting point. They The task force will update it to make it fit the more general environment of a campus or RON. Changes will be made in a Word document available on the wiki from this pageat:
https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/PerformanceWG/ConferenceCallNotes2008-09-04 BCP+-+Campus+and+RON+Guidelines
The time goal is to finish the guidelines document by the next Internet2 member meeting (April 27-29, 2009)
The audience is Measurement Infrastructure and Network Operatorsmeasurement infrastructure operators and network operators.
The purpose is to provide a rationale for using tools; to detail the benefits of building a measurement
infrastructure
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Homework for task force participants is to read the Guidelines document and prepare some thoughts on sections needing updating.
Next Steps - Ken Lindahl ken lindahl will send a Doodle poll to set up the next BCP task force conference call.
<name?> mentioned a Good Neighbor document, written in 1997?. This is a short, two-page list of bullets on being a good network neighbor. The content might not be relevant but it's a good thing to have. He will send this document to Ken.
Eric Boyd mentioned it will be important to decide the best the importance of determining ways to encourage implementation of the best practices. Should there be training? How does the WG recomment recommend rolling it out?
perfSONAR Update
Jeff Boote reviewed the new Toolkit, available on a CD , or available at http://www.internet2.edu/performance/pS-PS/
Organizations that install a performance node using the toolkit will be included in the list of active endpoints and services at http://. .www.perfsonar.net/deploy.html
The perfSONAR PS development team is getting feedback from users and making the toolkit even better. They are also preparing better documentation on individual services and the analysis client. They hope to make use of more and more of these tools in the Network Performance Workshops, to show how perfSONAR can be leveraged.
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Anyone who can help with testing the tools (-- or provide any feedback at all ) -- should email performancenodeuser@internet2.
performance-node-users AT internet2 DOT edu.
Discussion
Carla suggested discussion on:
- Challenges with transition of measurement tools and infrastructure from research to operations
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- Challenges
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- implementing end to end performance (i.e outreach to researchers)
Ana Luicia De Moura, from RNP in Brazil, commented that deploying a measurement system is a lot of work. It's important to involve the POP. Providing training that includes hands-on experience with the tools and the environment is key. They developed a well-defined use policy governing which users have access to what information.
Sherilyn from CENIC asked "What is the right skill set for people deploying measurement tools: network engineer or system administrator?" Responses focused on the need for a particular breed of system admin to solve the little glitches over time. There is also a need for people with the skill set to interpret and explain the results. This can be someone in the network engineering team who cares about what end-to-end performance users are getting.
Other Working Groups in the Network Area
Carla noted that there are three working groups in the network area, and there is some overlap.
- Performance WG
- DCN WG
- Transport WG
Chet and Steve, the cochairs for the Transport WG gave a quick overview of that WG, saying the goal is to solve end-to-end performance/transport issues.
Topic for the Future
International best practice was identified as a good topic for the future.STILL WORKING ON THIS SECTION OF MINUTES.... PLEASE CHECK BACK
- Intellectual Property Policy Reminder -
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