CACTI notes of Wednesday, December 6, 2023

Attending: Kevin Hickey, Rob Carter, Judith Bush, Derek Owens, Gabor Eszes, Tom Jordan, Margaret Cullen,  Kevin Mackie, Les LaCroix, John Bradley, Rob Gorell

With: Nicole Roy, Kevin Morooney, Andrew Scott, David Walker, Ann West, Steve Zoppi

Regrets: 

Reminders

  1. Transparency is a critical part of CACTI's duty to the community. Please promptly approve, edit (or indicate reason for disapproval) of minutes after they are posted.

    1. All CACTI notes have been approved to-date, thanks! (Nicole)

Procedures

  1. Please say your name when you start to speak, until we learn each others' voices
  2. Please ask colleagues to define terms, expand acronyms, etc, until we learn each others' jargon
  3. It's ok to challenge your colleagues in pursuit of quality of discourse. Hopefully in a nice way
  4. Please disclose any conflicts of interest you may have in any of the agenda topics, and potentially excuse yourself from the relevant conversations
  5. Please use the CACTI scribing doc
  6. Internet2 Intellectual Property Agreement reminder
  7. CACTI Charter pointer

Pre-Read Materials: 

  1. DRAFT Final report of the CACTI Next Generation Credentials Working Group

Action Item Review:

 Agenda

  1. Administrivia
    1. Volunteer(s) to scribe
    2. Agenda bash
  2. Announcements
    1. Working Group Updates (email only) - Please share via email on the CACTI list ahead of time
    2. 2024 CACTI leadership (Nicole)
  3. Main Business
    1. Welcome to new members, introductions (All)
    2. Final report of the CACTI next-generation credentials working group (see pre-reads) (Kevin H)
      1. AI Nicole, Kevin Revise report and present final report to CACTI in January
    3. 2024 CACTI work plan and preparing for feedback from the InCommon Futures 2 report (Kevin M, Nicole, Margaret, Kevin H, All)
      1. Internet2 partnered with SecondMuse to collect the information for the  InCommon Futures 2 report. The report will set the directions for moving forward.  Final product is expected Jan. 30, 2024.
      2. Roadmap https://internet2.edu/roadmap 
        1. Recommended that CACTI read it
    4. 2024 CACTI work ideas
      1. Continue the work on next-generation credentials
      2. Continue collaboration with NIST
      3. Operational responsibilities of EduRoam / Architectural discussions
        1. Expanding into K-12 
        2. Eduroam on wifi routers
        3. Radius protocol changes (deprecating UDP) / Radsec
      4. CACTI oversees  eduroam, Federation, Trusted Access Platform, and the Certificate Service.
      5. W3C FedCM - Work has been done by a W3C community group.  A working group should be approved in January.  Participation will be required by those who are members of W3c.
        1. FedCM does not / may not support the models currently used by the Federation, redirects, proxies, etc  WICG is planned to be introduced at the working group.
        2. The risk is that privacy concerns could result in problematic usage patterns of current federated authentication
        3. Potential third-party cookie changes by browsers will also have impacts.
      6. XML security 
      7. Can wallets provide the functionality to replace the federation? 
      8. Industry engagement 
    5. AI - Nicole, Margaret, Kevin Have an initial work plan ready for the February meeting

Next Meeting: Wednesday, January 3, 2024

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