- Chris Phillips, CANARIE (chair)
- Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
- Tom Barton, U Chicago
- Rob Carter, Duke
- Nathan Dors, U Washington
- Jill Gemmill, Clemson
- Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech
- Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT
- Les LaCroix, Carleton College
- Kevin Morooney
- Ann West
- Steve Zoppi
- Emily Eisbruch
- Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College
- Tom Jordan, U Wisc - Madison
- Ann Harding, SWITCH/GEANT
FIM4R (Federated Identity Management for Research Collaborations) paper
presentation stream (90 min): https://tnc18.geant.org/core/session/51
The question was raised of whether there project management on the items listed in the FIM4R paper, including timelines and communicating out.
Currently FIM4R does not monitor the progress of projects
CACTI is well positioned to be a middleman and help monitor the progress of the projects.
In the past, AARC did monitoring to some degree.
moving forward, some projects will be picked up by GEANT.
Perhaps there will be a follow on to the AARC project, new initiatives
There will be an event in the fall with the EU commission around the FIM4R items.
It was suggested that perhaps Internet2 could leverage the AARC model to convene and gather the research community.
AnnW commented that Internet2 tries to track projects nationally.
Tracking globally is complex, perhaps each federation could measure progress
Then the international community could create metrics
Kevin stated that Internet2 is commited to lead in the area of research support
It will be helpful if CACTI recommends to Kevin best path forward, and then Kevin will work to can move it forward
Could be an email from ChrisP to Kevin of the results of CACTI’s analysis
timeframe would be before TechEx in Oct 2018
The FIM4R paper mentions the MFA (Multi-Factor Authentication) Profile.
How can we increase adoption of that profile?
Attribute release has been a high priority for researchers but has not yet been solved
Can we use FIM4R to navigate this?
SteveZ: the TIER Containers default to R&S
Due to lack of adoption of R&S, LIGO has adopted a proxy solution, so attribute release is not as important as it was previously
Would hope for a more nimble response to researchers needs in the future, though not sure how to accelerate the process
To reduce cycle times, broader reach and better network helps, running an IDP as a service could help.
It was noted that when we improve things for researchers, we improve federation for everyone, including enterprises
InCommon TAC will look at FIM4R paper at an upcoming call
ChrisP and Mark Scheible (TAC Chair) will be in conversation on this and ChrisP will be on a future TAC call
It makes sense for CACTI to ask the T&I working groups to do gap analysis related to FIM4R
Summary of FIM4R paper discussion:
- CACTI would like the T&I working group chairs to review the FIM4R paper and provide reflection, response, gap analysis back to CACTI
- AI (ChrisP) reach out to WG Chairs and ask for response (scoped feedback) to FIM4R paper by Labor Day
- AI (ChrisP and AnnW) work on scoped questions around FIM4R paper for WG Chairs
- AI (Emily) email TomB and Dean about a possible Blog about FIM4R paper (done) https://www.internet2.edu/blogs/detail/16295
MACE Dir Sunset and Transition
Status: Progressing / Timetable: desired to be consumated by TechEx18.
(new for July 10, 2018) Proposed Requirements to transition eduPerson to REFEDS: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rQnJFT-j7V4XsxgA4K8ozZzPVElLm_iB4cMQLXvuXn0/edit
ChrisP and HeatherF worked on this doc
OIDC update from the field
More presence in the OIDF by federations (Internet2, SWITCH, SURFNET, CANARIE + ?)
(working group within REFEDs) Davide has stepped up to be chair and create a profile in OPENID Foundation
Friday afternoon after TechEx there may be a working and planning session related to OPENIDre
ADFS and Microsoft (AnnW)
Meeting w Microsoft at EDUCAUSE prompted rebooting of Microsoft relationship w Internet2.
Microsoft is interested in cloud services and resources
Also talked about ADFS and federation and how it does not work as well as it should,
ADFS is still under development
There may be ways for the Internet2 community to influence the development
Questions came up on today’s call between Ann and Microsoft, of what’s the target
CACTI is in a good position to take an inventory, review w international audience and provide that input to Microsoft
Todd, Les and Bill Thompson (Lafayette College) have been discussing best ways to encourage more TIER participation in small campuses.
Upcoming CACTI Meetings
6 CACTI meetings left until open CACTI meeting at TechEx in Orlando (Thursday, Oct 18 at lunch )
July 24, Aug 7, Aug 21, Sept 4 (1st day back after Labour day), Sept 18, Oct 2
Next Call: Tuesday, July 10, 2018