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Data Mesh

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Context

Data mesh is a decentralized sociotechnical approach to share, access, and manage analytic data in complex and large-scale environments — within or across organizations.

Why talk about data mesh now at the UW and CU Boulder?

Data Mesh Principles & Concepts

Emerging Vendor Data Mesh Solutions

CU Boulder Spring 2023 Data Mesh Experiment

Discussion & Questions

Further Information

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Resources

Gartner

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ZOOM Chat

08:05:12 From  Rupert Berk - UWash (he/him)  to  Everyone:
    Please take the following 2 question poll on Data Mesh:: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe2wc9NomvpGyVDL6uz8_3Z6sxxBJMGY52BJmr1Z3_GRDvNqA/viewform
08:29:15 From  Rupert Berk - UWash (he/him)  to  Everyone:
    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Dp-OKciDplP7uIbuggIjxw7-JjBfKxhLbYOMZstZPDk/edit#slide=id.g208c4306e10_0_6
08:50:11 From  jeff kennedy  to  Everyone:
    ¿ What i think i heard was that the shift toward Data Mesh can be effected incrementally across the data estate (so, it's not the "flip of a switch").  Assuming the first increments are built in data domains where going The Data Mesh Way will make a positive difference: what does that look like in terms of business-outcome value?; is there are critical mass of increments needed for that value to be worthwhile?
08:50:42 From  jeff kennedy  to  Everyone:
    ! can't be an architect _without_ being a bit of an evangelist !
08:51:38 From  J.J. Du Chateau (Wisconsin)  to  Everyone:
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08:51:50 From  Kunta Hutabarat - CU Boulder  to  Everyone:
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08:52:00 From  Jim Phelps (UW)  to  Everyone:
    I think a lot of what I do as an architect is being an evangelist for the strategies I think are important
08:52:08 From  Glenn Donaldson (Ohio State)  to  Everyone:
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08:52:10 From  Ron Janik - Braadley Univ.  to  Everyone:
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08:52:13 From  Ron Janik - Braadley Univ.  to  Everyone:
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08:52:13 From  J.J. Du Chateau (Wisconsin)  to  Everyone:
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08:52:14 From  Glenn Donaldson (Ohio State)  to  Everyone:
    Great Presentation - Thank you both!
08:52:26 From  Ron Janik - Braadley Univ.  to  Everyone:
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08:52:38 From  jeff kennedy  to  Everyone:
    ¿ Appreciated too the call-out for the importance of "sociotechnical" in the Data Mesh definition, and wonder conversely whether or not the goals of "traditional" data governance in higher education can be ever realized: that is, could we solve the problems seeding the ground for Data Mesh by doing-data-governance-properly?
08:52:53 From  jeff kennedy  to  Everyone:
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08:54:27 From  Ron Janik - Braadley Univ.  to  Everyone:
    Replying to "¿ Appreciated too th..."    
    It may be a "the chicken or the egg" situation, at least as I see it. :)
08:54:38 From  Ryan Thomas, Illinois  to  Everyone:
    Whether Data Mesh or something akin, a lot of guidance is one must have good, mature Metadata Management capabilities.  I.e., metadata management capabilities might be a good place to start.
08:55:47 From  jeff kennedy  to  Everyone:
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08:56:19 From  Dave Goldhammer (CU Boulder)  to  Everyone:
    If there is time, I’m curious if there are higher-ed institutions that would be considered “high” on the data mesh maturity model.
08:56:39 From  Beth Schaefer - University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee  to  Everyone:
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08:56:47 From  Beth Schaefer - University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee  to  Everyone:
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08:57:05 From  Rupert Berk - UWash (he/him)  to  Everyone:
    Replying to "¿ Appreciated too th..."    
    I totally agree that standing up a data governance structure would support this.
08:57:44 From  Jim Phelps (UW)  to  Everyone:
    The “how many students do we have” problem
08:58:30 From  jeff kennedy  to  Everyone:
    Data Literacy = great question!  Equally, if there are lovely data-and-information products furnished by a Data Mesh xor by-not-a-data-mesh does meshiness make a difference there?  Data Literacy is a major impediment for us here, even with traditional | legacy information assets.
08:59:53 From  Ron Janik - Braadley Univ.  to  Everyone:
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09:00:02 From  Ryan Thomas, Illinois  to  Everyone:
    Especially given what Gartner said in 2022, it’s probably good to avoid putting too many eggs in a term like “Data Mesh”, but rather focus on the principles and target benefits.  The ones articulated in Data Mesh are excellent… and more important than the phrase “Data Mesh”.
09:00:11 From  J.J. Du Chateau (Wisconsin)  to  Everyone:
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09:00:16 From  Ryan Thomas, Illinois  to  Everyone:
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09:01:38 From  Stephanie Warner - UW Milwaukee  to  Everyone:
    Replying to "Data Literacy = grea..."    
    Great point.  This very morning I began working on a structure for releasing shared data models to our Authors.  This includes a data literacy component, marketing and validation - and this is just from a single source.
09:01:40 From  Ron Janik - Braadley Univ.  to  Everyone:
    great conversation and presentation everyone. Thank you!

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