Attending 

Members

• John Bradley, Independent
• Rob Carter, Duke, (Chair) 
• Margaret Cullen, Painless Security
• Stoney Gan, University of South Florida
• Kevin Hickey, Detroit Mercy 
• Marina Krenz, REN-ISAC 
• Jeremy Perkins 
• Chris Phillips, CANARIE (Vice-Chair)
• Steven Premeau, InCommon TAC Representative to CACTI
• Erik Scott, RENCI

Internet2 

• Nicole Roy
• David Walker
• Ann West 
• Steve Zoppi

Regrets

• Kevin Morooney
• Mike Grady
• Barry Johnson
• Licia Florio

Action Items

• (none)

Discussion

Announcements and Updates

• Linking SSO WG update (Rob)

• • The group has met and created a good list of issues they want to address, including pain points, etc.
  • Meetings are on alternating Wednesdays; the next is 5/18.

• Subject identifier adoption group update (Steven P)

• • No update - Mark R could not attend last TAC meeting, so there was no report.

• IdP as a Service WG (Kevin H)

• • This group is spinning up now - first meeting this week - Kevin agreed to give an update each CACTI call.

Community Update: Margaret Cullen

• Margaret’s been working in Internet2-related areas since 1987. She now has had a consulting company for 14 years; current clients include IETF and Internet2.
• Her primary Internet2 work has been on eduroam.
  • Looking at how to integrate eduroam into various campus SSO systems.
  • IdP and SP testing is coming up.
  • The project team has never met in person. It's great how tools like Zoom, Slack, email, etc. make the team productive.

Theme: DID and Wallets

• Trust and the R&E federations value proposition in the context of DIDs

1. • There is a good amount of activity on this in the EU.
   • There’s now a Slack channel for this topic, including EU people. Let Nicole know if you’d like to be added.
   • In North America, there’s not much interest in the community, but federation leadership (e.g., CACTI and TAC) know it's coming.
   • JohnB: The W3C group is predominately interested in verifiable credentials for education, so the meeting at IIW didn’t go well for a discussion of wallets. There hasn't yet been much discussion of interoperability.
   • The InCommon Trust Model whitepaper by David Walker, et al: https://doi.org/10.26869/ti.3.2 
   • We should strive not to reinvent essentially the same federation trust model (as happened with eduroam - for good reason). We should leverage the federation where we can without recreating it.
   • Jeremy: Instructure has been working on many of these concerns with a focus on the institutions that issue “badges” representing academic achievements. https://support.badgr.com/en/knowledge
   • Margaret in chat: “It might be good to start with the question of what we want to use the IDs (and badges?) in the wallet for? Are they used to authenticate a particular human? To authorize a human to do something? Or just to prove that this is the same human who accessed the site earlier? Are they intended to identify a person in the real world? Or should they be privacy-preserving? Is payment part of this? Or am I being confused by the term ‘wallet’?”

Communications strategy: Preparing for blog posts, etc. 

• (Ran out of time.)

Next Meeting: Tuesday, May 24, 2022