CACTI call of Tuesday, Aug 20, 2019
Attending
Members
- Chris Phillips, CANARIE (chair)
- Tom Barton, University of Chicago
- Rob Carter, Duke
- Jill Gemmill, Clemson
- Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech
- Les LaCroix, Carleton College
Internet2
- Kevin Morooney
- Ann West
- Nick Roy
- Emily Eisbruch
- Mike Zawacki
Regrets
- Marina Adomeit, GEANT
- Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
- Nathan Dors, U Washington
- Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College
- Tom Jordan, University of Wisc - Madison
- Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT
- Steve Zoppi, Internet2
- Jessica Coltrin, Internet2
Discussion
New Representatives
- Les volunteered to be on InCommon TAC for CACTI
- Matt Economou from InCommon TAC to be attending CACTI meetings
- Contractor working for National Institute of Infectious Diseases, but representing himself on InCommon TAC
- Familiar w Shib, SATOSA, ADFS, works on Infrastructure
Affirmation that the eduROAM Advisory Committee Charter can proceed (Chris/Nick MikeZ)
- Actions taken are in the eduroam AC charter consultation wiki: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/NwgSCQ
- Ready to go with this charter
- Mike Z will work with Jessica on next steps on launching
- getting the charter into the Doc Repository
- recruiting for and convening the working group
- There will be a CACTI rep on the eduroam AC, to be appointed later
- Good to see the eduroam AC spinning up soon.
Report out from BaseCAMP Aug 13-15, 2019
- https://meetings.internet2.edu/2019-basecamp/
- 62 attendees
- Post BaseCAMP survey asked , would you come back / recommend?
- 33 % responded to survey. 20 people. All 20 said yes they would come back/recommend. They learned something useful
- Faculty (counselors) did a great job, material was good, caring came through from the faculty
- Four to one ratio of attendees to faculty, providing help for those with questions or needing mentoring
- Great step toward bigger tent for InCommon
- AnnW: the Service Provider track was well attended even though only 2 service providers attending
- Many universities offer their own services and were interested
- Worked hard on a warm welcoming environment. Called on people to tell their stories. This helped show diversity.
- Did appreciations at end of BaseCAMP, similar to end of Advance CAMP
- Plan to create lists for attendees to continue connecting
- Tried to make logical connection between baseCAMP and CAMP (at TechEx) and ACAMP (at TechEx)
- Important to introduce and define technical terms
- Hit the target goals quite well
- Dinner -- with counselors taking a small group to a restaurant to discuss a certain theme for Q and A -- went well.
- We should do more of that approach for conference dinners
- There were also some attendees who were more experienced.
- Next time we could perhaps better meet their needs for focused training.
- But Important to keep focused on new people.
- What is the right frequency for baseCAMP? Make it shorter and more regional? Currently next baseCAMP would be one year from now
- Cyclical graph in the slides showing how this relates to rest of the Trust and Identity program for rest of year.
- How does baseCAMP relate to IDPRO effort?
- baseCAMP targets our community really well.
- We also need to keep “feeding” and growing our InCommon community, which is a slightly different goal from IDPRO
- Training plans include a cycle, to include trusted access platform component training, such as for COmanage, MidPoint, Grouper, Shib,
- Some interest from Europeans in the training model being developed
- On 1st day of baseCAMP, Tom Jordon laid out basic functionality of identity and IAM program services
- 2nd day talked about how business architecture maps to technology and solutions
- COmanage
- A lot of interest in COmanage at BaseCAMP
- Collaboration Success Program (CSP) is open for organizations to express interest.
- InCommon Collaboration Success Program
- Many of those who have expressed interest in CSP are interested in COmanage, some interested in using COmanage as a person registry, there are discussions post baseCAMP about using COmanage for the person registry purpose.
- Also there are discussions about having COmanage modules that can be downloaded.
- Looking at best packaging for COmanage within the Trusted Access Platform.
- Paul Caskey is doing some of this work around COmanage packaging.
- Jill: sounds like people are interested in enterprise functions of COmanage.
- For research community, cross institutional collaboration is important
- NCSA is using COmanage this way.
- Some overlap between research and enterprise use cases for COmanage. Can need a data store in either case
- Les: there are opportunities for training in solutions other than Shibboleth
- There is interest in using OKTA and also the Trusted Access Platform software solutions
- Q: Are there plans to share the BaseCAMP materials more widely?
- There will be a blog in the next Trust and Identity newsletter.
- Could also send a link to the EDUCAUSE IDM list
- For next BaseCAMP, there may be some materials provided ahead of time by video.
Spaces for Regulated Data
- Jill noted there is an Interesting use case around secure space and campuses building places for work on regulated data
- Includes sharing of data in some cases
- There was a workshop at PEARC in Pittsburgh https://www.pearc18.pearc.org/
- Some sessions at most recent PEARC conf in Chicago https://www.pearc19.pearc.org/
- GlobusWorld has discussed this at their meetings
- This topic is on Tom Barton’s radar
- Perhaps there is no active collaborative community wide approach
- Good issue for CACTI to think about
- Researchers care a lot about this.
- Good agenda topic for a future call
- AI Nick add this to agenda for future CACTI call
Annual member cycle for committees (ChrisP, Jessica not able to join today )
- CACTI has 2 possible member terms ending in 2019 for the new process.
FIM4R recommendations, next set of priorities based on
Next Call: Tuesday, Sept 3, 2019