CACTI call of Tuesday, May 14, 2019
Attending
Members
- Chris Phillips, CANARIE (chair)
- Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
- Rob Carter, Duke
- Nathan Dors, U Washington
- Tom Jordan, University of Wisc - Madison
- Les LaCroix, Carleton College
Internet2
- Steve Zoppi
- Nick Roy
- Mike Zawacki
Regrets
- Marina Adomeit, GEANT
- Tom Barton, University of Chicago
- Jessica Coltrin, Portland State University, liaison from InCommon TAC
- Jill Gemmill, Clemson
- Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College
- Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech
- Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT
- Kevin Morooney, Internet2
- Ann West, Internet2
- Emily Eisbruch, Internet2
New Action Items from this call:
AI (NickR) Consider eduroam TAC Charter comments/review with MikeZ, finalize doc for review by ChrisP, then a vote by CACTI when ChrisP is satisfied.
Pre-Reads
Reminders/longer term
- Slide deck for value proposition for research for the Trusted Access Platform (Jill and Ann)
Discussion
Main Business
- TechEx19 Submission deadline is May 17 – what would we like to submit/request for time?
- Might want to use the CACTI meeting time as an open meeting again
- Active topics?
- There will be a Fed 2.0 time slot at TechEx
- Would be good for this group to keep an eye on the work as it progresses
- Future agenda item for this call: Fed 2.0 update from TomB
- MikeZ submitted an “eduroam mini-mobility day” presentation
- One hour, based on the BoF format
- Would like to pursue the same format at TechEx, talk about K12 deployments/regional network partnership, etc.
- Similar to format at Global Summit19 - service update, related presentations
- Could do a joint CACTI/eduroam TAC open session as an introduction to the eduroam TAC.
- Does this warrant an additional session in addition to our normal meeting time?
- Yes/depends on how we brand it. If our meeting is a feedback session, then that would cover the need. If it’s something specific beyond a general feedback session, may want an additional session.
- FIM4R response status update?
- Federation 2.0 WG?
- eduroam TAC?
- Put down a stake and say we want to talk to community, not sure what about yet.
- General CACTI update
- Eduroam related
- Update from GeGC (Global Eduroam Governance Committee)
- Free service provided by GÉANT for up to 10,000 users per NRO - we could pretty easily hit that limit with just a couple small school districts
- Nick and Mike have been talking to Stefan and Miro about options - still early in the discussion - good potential eduroam TAC conversation
- Tim Cappalli from Aruba will be presenting at mobility day at TNC
- GeGC meets about 1x/quarter
- Chris previewed the topics from the last GeGC call as a preview of the kinds of topics that may be covered by the eduroam TAC
- Discussion of relationship between IdP-as-a-service and eduroam/managed RADIUS IdP
- Hosted eduroam: hosted.eduroam.org as IdP
- eduroam TAC charter
- Since this group will have formal governance responsibilities, including business decisions, it makes sense to have an elected membership.
- Need to be mindful of intent to cultivate new talent in the space.
- InC-TAC seeks open participation in its midterm strategies through open working groups. We would want to do the same thing in the eduroam TAC.
- Next steps for eduroam TAC Charter
- AI (NickR):Consider eduroam TAC Charter comments/review with MikeZ, finalize doc for review by ChrisP, then a vote by CACTI when ChrisP is satisfied.
- Question of whether this eduroam TAC group should be more like the TAC model of elected membership versus MACE-Dir open membership.
- IDPro https://idpro.org/
- light reading: https://github.com/IDPros/bok-toc/blob/master/maintoc.pdf
- How can IdPro be leveraged?
- Work is still developing; Building the content is under way, still early days
- Some concern that structure may be too much of a walled garden
- Would be helpful to have an entry point into IDPro for people who aren’t paying dues to figure out how to orient into the activities
- Would like to work with IDPro if circumstances can enable entrance of newcomers/enable engagement with R&E community
- IDPro group had a meeting to determine how best to offer accreditation. Determined that offering a Body of Knowledge (BOK) was key. https://idpro.org/mission-and-vision IDPro doesn’t want to put a paywall in front of the BoK.
Remaining Topics left for future CACTI call
- CACTI FIM4R Prioritization
Status Updates
- eduroam-US TAC charter (NOTE! ← This link should be removed before publicly posting) process (Mike Z, Rob C, Nick R)
- Close-out of MACE-DIR transition to REFEDS
- URN registry transfer
- KeithH sent email to MACE-DIR list telling people to move discussions to the REFEDS schema list, and auto-reply to any MACE Dir emails now directs people to new list.
- Need to finalize the Sunset doc and submit it to Doc Repository (Emily will coordinate this) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MbsvYWA2dyQIE0fGUpzxu84ImQtwTESgB8e3VEQ_Z5w/edit#heading=h.pjiszqpbrsc4
Topics being tracked
- Continue prioritizing CACTI FIM4R recommendations (Chris/Jill)
- infrastructure, services to end users, software dev, infrastructure as a service, and outreach and education
- Focus of conversation: to identify high priority items/quick wins in the above areas
- Build on last meetings outcomes focusing on the 5 areas we highlighted :
- Web authentication (Fido/W3C Webauthn) (Rob in the next month or so)
- ID Pro
Next Call: Tuesday, May 28, 2019