CACTI call of Jan. 8, 2019

Attending

  Members

• Chris Phillips, CANARIE (chair)
• Tom Barton, U. Chicago 
• Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
  
• Rob Carter, Duke  
• Jill Gemmill, Clemson 
• Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech  
• Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College 
• Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT   

Internet2

• Kevin Morooney  
• Ann West  
• Steve Zoppi   
• Nick Roy
• David Walker  
• Emily Eisbruch  (scribe)  
  
  

Regrets

• • Marina Adomeit, GEANT

  • Nathan Dors, U Washington  

  • Tom Jordan, U Wisc - Madison

  • Les LaCroix, Carleton College

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 Action Items

• older: [AI] Chris will discuss future of Security and Audit WG w chairs of CTAB and TAC
• older: [AI] (ChrisP) follow up with Les and Christos on next steps for URN / OID registry.

CACTI Action items wiki:   https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/GoPdBg  

Discussion

eduTEAMS - overview and insight  

• Christos provided overview of eduTEAMS  https://www.geant.org/Innovation/eduteams/Pages/Getting-Started.aspx
• Please see these slides:
  • slides: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QjRfPhBiWJUK73VfTDVI7NV2pa7NPgXu/view?usp=sharing

• There are several pilots underway

• Q: Proxy integrates the attributes sources, can you pull info about a given user?
  
  • A: Yes, in dedicated version of eduteams

• Q:  How many people to support eduTeams?
  A: Five FTEs for development and operations. Will be adding more people for the bespoke service
  
  
• Q: Is there a matrix or comparison of platforms different from COmanage? Which has which features?
  A: Found it is not useful, from the recent pilots, hard for users to understand, better to do consulting to help understand what best fits the needs.
  Note: It was requested that Christos share this info with CACTI anyhow, if it exists.

• Comments: 
  • Good to track lessons learned on scaling up eduTeams.
    Interesting to see how the COmanage story dovetails with the eduTeams story
  • Thanks to Christos for the excellent presentation on eduTeams.

Proposed final draft of CACTI FIM4R review

• CACTI-DRAFT-FIM4R-Assessment Final

• Ready to call this the completed recommendation

• Q: How do the recommendations in the CACTI FIM4R Assessment mesh with  eduTeams ?

  • Jill: The FIM4R Assessment covers membership management and need for integration.

  •  Large section of community does not warrant federal funding. 

  • US  NRENs do not have the staff that European NRENs have. 

  • We would call on expertise with more emphasis on campus IDM staff and developers.   

  • With larger number of people involved in sharing info on how to use the offering and where to go for help.

• It was noted that eduTeams is the collaboration as a service aspect of the FIM4R report

• Closely parallels the CI logon 2 offering that is offered in the USA

• Sustainability is key

• Providing a gateway for researchers

• Small part of research community knows about it; communicating with the community about what offerings are available is very  important

• Ann: Next Campus Success Program (CSP) is key  

  • We want to work with Trusted CI, help projects get up to speed

  • Looking at doing something like Campus Success Program (CSP), but with  a focus on research and perhaps  on campus research centers

  • Goal is to start building long-term infrastructure to handle the projects so they don’t have to go elsewhere for the infrastructure.  

  • Long term play with interesting synergy

• ChrisP :  FIM4R report recommendations are able to be used to fortify the CSP in next steps, we don’t necessarily call it out in the FIMrR doc

•  Still  need to write an exec summary for the FIM4R doc

• Kevin: 

  • CACTI did an expansive request for input

  • Feel confident taking this forward now

  • An important intermediate step is to do one or two passes and look at what is possible and broader planning constructs

  • There is half-day Internet2 exec planning team retreat later this week.

  • Kevin would like to share the FIM4R report as a draft, and as Internet2 confidential

  • Group agreed it is OK for Kevin to share the report at this point internal

  • Kevin would like to work on a communication strategy longer term for the FIM4R response work

• Jill noted there would be benefit to sharing the FIM4R Response with the campus training events. 

•  Ann suggested to share the current FIM4R response paper with those we reached out to for input (Component Architects, TAC, CTAB, etc) so they  can preview; Then perhaps do a webinar. Ask Jim Basney, from CI Logon, to share his perspective

  
  

2019 planning - closer collaboration with TAC + Chairs?

• ChrisP has reached out to Janemarie and Keith Wessel of TAC to continue the conversation
• Would be great for CACTI to know more about the planning cycle and how can CACTI help
• Nick Roy could coordinate a planning meeting to discuss next steps, looking at major priorities.
• AnnW: 
  • We need to look at all the community recommendations reports we have received in past 6 months. 
  • Staff could then return to CACTI and others with questions on priorities.
• Christos: 
  • helpful to return to the reserach community with the recommendations
  • Sometimes things get lost in translation
  • AARC created recommendations along WITH the research community and this proved very helpful
• Involve others in addition to JimB
• TomB will try to help with that outreach to researchers  
• Important to promote effective strategy around distribution of IAM skills on campus, distributed solutions to the research community needs. 

CACTI Staffing

• Welcome Nick Roy as CACTI staff liaison.
• Emily Eisbruch will continue to serve as CACTI scribe
  

Next CACTI Meeting is Tuesday, January 22, 2019