CACTI call of Oct. 2, 2018
Attending
Members
- Chris Phillips, CANARIE (chair)
- Tom Barton, U Chicago
- Rob Carter, Duke
- Nathan Dors, U Washington
- Jill Gemmill, Clemson
- Ann Harding, SWITCH/GEANT
- Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech
- Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College
- Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT
- Les LaCroix, Carleton College
Internet2
- Ann West
- Emily Eisbruch
- David Walker
Regrets
- Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
- Tom Jordan, U Wisc - Madison
- Steve Zoppi , Internet2
- Kevin Morooney, Internet2
Discussion
FIM4R Recommendations Review
- FIM4R Assessment public coordination page: CACTI-Discuss-Topic-Internet2 FIM4R Assessment
- The team has done more prioritization of the feedback recommendations since our last CACTI call.
- Priority Recommendation : Support Collaboration as a Service
- Within edugain, there is a minimum implementation for an IDP. There can be profiles to indicate a better level of readiness for federation. Best common practices.
- Suggestion to leverage the CTAB work around Baseline Expectations (BE)
- Support adding both R&S for higher ed IDPs and SIRTFI to BE
- Best to avoid another tagging scheme.
- Regarding the recommendation around CILogon, we may want to be sure we are looking at the whole class of services.
- Globus Online is another option. https://www.globus.org/
- Globus Online relies on CILOGON. But would be worth having discussions with Globus
- Globus is based on OAuth and Globus is developing OAuth and OIDC standards
- eduTeams https://www.geant.org/Innovation/eduteams
- Sometimes it’s necessary to choose a service to support.
- We should continue to keep an eye out for critical efforts
- AnnH: Campus IDP work on federation has been less successful than on the eduroam side
- IdP as a service may be complex. Need to give campus control
- InCommon TAC is looking at IDP as a service
- IDP as a service is a good idea, this can help bridge the gap around R&S adoption
- There was consensus that the team (Jill, Karen, ChrisP, etc) is on the right track with the FIM4R response work. Will develop another draft for TechEx.
OIDC R&E WG update
- OIDF R&E WG has been accepted by OIDF… what’s next? Things are moving along at a good pace
- https://openid.net/wg/rande/
- Oct 1, 2018 - planning meeting yesterday
- Oct 15 - REFEDS
- Oct 16-19 - TechEx
- Oct 19 - OIDC WG chair/leads bonus session
- Milestone: alignment between OIDF R&E, REFEDS OIDCre, and InCommon OIDC-OAuth; people with needs/interest know where to go.
- Oct 22 - OIDF meeting (before IIW)
- Oct 23-25 - IIW https://www.internetidentityworkshop.com/
- OIDF R&E WG - most work driven via mailing list; bi-weekly calls alternating between times friendly to EU and Asia Pacific.
- Need to do more training and learning around OIDC
- Question: How are we handling communications with REFEDs?
- Answer: there was good representation on the Oct 1 planning call including many Europeans
- ChrisP: At TechEx in Orlando, we hope to move the needle on communication and clarification on where to go for particular topics and how people can get connected
- ChrisP is informing the edugain Steering group
EduPerson transition
- No course change, proceeding as planned.
- REFEDs steering will vote within a few days on the eduPerson transition
TechEx in Orlando
- open CACTI meeting at TechEx in Orlando (Thursday, Oct 18 at lunch 10/18/18 12:10PM-01:30PM )
- https://meetings.internet2.edu/2018-technology-exchange/detail/100052
- Proposed Agenda for open meeting.
- FIM4R assessment
- Outreach and engaging research platforms open discussion
- Continue the conversation on how to expand our reach to benefit other areas such as Pacific Research Platform and other efforts.
- An update on state/next steps of Sunset for MACE-DIR
- Community Updates
- Jill: Food for thought: IDP as a service -- we would have benefited from having this years ago
- For CIOs, budget and resources are an issue, but the IDP as a service would be a huge benefit