Attending

Members

• Chris Phillips, CANARIE  (chair)
• Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
• Tom Barton, U Chicago 
• Rob Carter, Duke 
• Nathan Dors, U Washington 
• Jill Gemmill, Clemson 
• Ann Harding, SWITCH/GEANT 
• Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech   
• Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College 
• Tom Jordan, U Wisc - Madison  
• Les LaCroix, Carleton College   
  
  

Internet2

• Kevin Morooney 
• Ann West 
• Steve Zoppi   
• Emily Eisbruch 

Regrets: Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT

New Action Items:

• AI (ChrisP) reach out to KeithH, DavidB, TomJ, and others to get the MACE-Dir Sunset / transition document moving

Discussion

MACE- Directories WG Sunset/Transition  

• Based on recent discussions, community and MACE-DIR members agree that sunsetting MACE-Dir is the correct course.  
• This will involve moving the  content/functions of MACE-DIR  to other places (e.g. REFEDs, TIER API and Data structures WG).
• Rationale: MACE DIR WG has seen a decline in participation in favor of more energy in some other groups.  
• The eduPerson schema work has become international so it makes sense to move the eduPerson work to REFEDs to have it in a wider context.
• TomJ: the discussion around MACE-Dir transition at the Global Summit MACE-Dir BOF was positive.  
  • One part of the  discussion focused on the need to curate working group assets.

  Transition to REFEDs and other groups

• The MACE-Dir transition/sunset is not just a relocating of a body of work. 
•  It can be an opportunity for new people to become engaged. 
• CACTI should work to design the transition in a thoughtful way to maximize community engagement moving forward.
• AnnH: this move of the international work to REFEDs makes sense.  
  • We need to support REFEDs so they have the people to do the work.
• Les noted that the TIER Data Structures and APIs Working Group should likely be rechartered. https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/DSAWG/TIER+Data+Structures+and+APIs+Working+Group+Charter
• SteveZ: CACTI is charged with recommending how the Data Structures and APIs WG should be chartered moving forward.
• TomB: We should create the charter/transition plan in a way that will help REFEDs know how to move forward
• AnnH: Human care to be sure the standards are valid and alive is key
• SteveZ: helpful to delegate a function to a person not to a WG
• ChrisP: we may want to suggest that REFEDs be  sure that a human is responsible for a standard, 
  
  

   Registries

• In addition to the EduPerson schema, registries (URN and OID) have been one part of the MACE-Dir portolio
  • https://www.internet2.edu/products-services/trust-identity/mace-registries/urnmace-namespace/

• • 6 new URNs in 2017, one so far in 2018
  • OIDs https://www.internet2.edu/products-services/trust-identity/mace-registries/internet2-object-identifier-oid-registrations/

Next Steps

• The plan is that KeithH and DavidB (MACE-Dir Co-Chairs) will help recommend which parts of MACE-Dir should be transitioned to which new home.
• AI (ChrisP) reach out to KeithH, DavidB, TomJ, and others to get the transition document moving

CACTI Collaboration with  InCommon TAC

• InCommon TAC is looking at roadmaps on campuses and related issues. 
• Mark Scheible, InCommon TAC Chair, reached out to ChrisP about TAC collaboration with a few  CACTI members on a task force to identify issues that are affecting campus IdP operators - and where those issues stem from with respect to T&I and Policy and Governance stakeholders on campus.

• Jill: at Global Summit in San Diego, CIOs stated request for commercial level of support for TIER.  
• We should articulate where we are going and where we want the campuses to get to.
• KevinM: two big themes from CIOs at Global Summit:
  • 1) Support for TIER needed
  • 2) TIER core components have been strengthened by TIER program and work together better than previously. Need to develop revenue streams to keep the forward motion
• There is a threat to doing IAM right on campuses due to lack of sufficient attention to IDPs and SPs etc on campus. There is a need to grow the international IAM community.
• SteveZ noted that TIER program was to develop ongoing sustainability for key IAM components. 
• This is happening as we plan now for end of initial TIER funding cycle
• It was noted that there is a question of human and financial capacity.
• At TIER Investors meeting at Global Summit, there was not a focus on new innovation.
• There was a focus on sustaining what has been developed already.
• Jill: Trust and Identity business model should include some percent for innovation
• At start of Internet2 Trust and Identity work,  the driver was community architects sharing their work and efforts.  
• Now things structured more top down.
• Next Steps:
  • On June 7, ChrisP will join the InCommon TAC call. 
  • Chris will take to that discussion the questions raised here about being forward looking. 
  • There are concerns around attention economy and how this impacts IAM components

Work and meeting planning 

• This is the last CACtI meeting before TNC18/REFEDS  
• 10 meetings left until October TechEx in Orlando

• 1. June 12 (middle of TNC,1 year anniversary of CACTI, meeting same time as GeGC@TNC)

  2. Others: June 26, July 10, July 24, Aug 7, Aug 21, Sept 4 (1st day back after Labour day),Sept 18, Oct 2, Oct 16 Start of TechEx18)

  3. Should CACTI have a hiatus during Aug. 2018? Please let ChrisP know if you think yes.

Next Call: Tuesday June 12, 2018 (note this call was cancelled)