Date, Time, and Location

Thursday, December 12, 2019
1:10pm ET | 12:10pm CT | 11:10am MT | 10:10am PT

Minutes

Attending: Keith Wessel, Matthew Economou, Mike Grady, Mark Rank, Mary McKee, Judith Bush, Erik Kool-Brown, Eric Goodman, Janemarie Duh (remote), Mizuki Karasawa (remote)

With: Kevin Morooney, Jessica Coltrin, Ann West, David Bantz, Shannon Roddy, Nick Roy, Dave Shafer, Steve Zoppi, Albert Wu, Les LeCroix


Intellectual Property Reminder - All Internet2 activities are governed by the Internet2 Intellectual Property Framework.

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Officer election progress

  • (process will go out via email after this meeting)
  • All existing members (not new members) are on the ballot, please email Jessica to let her know by end of Tuesday, 12/17 if you do not want to be on the ballot.
  • Ballot will go out early Wednesday morning, 12/18
  • Vote by end of day on 12/23

2020 Work Plan


  • Draft of 2020 work plan - what is missing (notes in this document)
  • There is a lot of overlap in these items, could it be that driving one of these items it also moves forward momentum and progress on several others, easy path toward maximizing ROI and maximum increase in value for InCommon
  • This could also help with CIOs and others to help demonstrate value
  • Priorities:
    • Cloud services cookbook
    • Test federation
    • IdP as a service
    • Shibboleth support
    • RA21

Survey response to prioritizing Deployment Profile WG Recommendations

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GAsidoFyGTvyjv2P8M-gBnK-PdS7Etqr0mOMf6H5v2s/edit?usp=sharing

  • Reviewing these items in context of if we should add them to the work plan
  • Clarify Changing encryption algorithms 
    • encryption algorithms all have known flaws, there are others but noone is using them, if we put some momentum behind them we could change that
    • Could involve changing defaults, however IdPs and SPs may not support it, like SHA1 to SHA256 migration
    • Depends on the ability of implementations to consume metadata
    • This comes out of the work on the deployment profile
    • Leveraging SSL Labs for testing?
  • Survey did a good job of picking out the tough nuts to crack, each one could take up a large cycle
  • SAML 2.1
    • Surprised it rose up to high level of difficulty, is it really this much work?
    • Probably the easiest item on the list
    • Albert commented it should be in the low-hanging fruit section
  • Test Federation is already on both lists, are there any of these items we should add to 2020 work plan, or hand over to InCommon operations, or to InCommon management? With focus on any items that need to be on the work plan.
  • Adopt new identifiers
    • Analogy of subsidizing the toll road
    • People are willing to pay for what it the most valuable for the greatest good. Setting a price is difficult until you have done the hard work of articulating the value.
    • The value is making it easier.
    • Should these be in baseline?
    • Would be good to start the train moving as fast as possible so we have a hope of getting there soon.
    • Would need to coordinate with REFEDS & others.
    • Communication is a significant lift - this clearly helps experienced folks - would it also be as helpful to others and lowering the threshold for entry? 
    • Goal was not to stop others from using old identifiers 
  • All of these items seem important, struggling on setting priorities - do we want to set up a TAC sub-group or a working group to break down what this means?

Next Meeting -  Thursday, Dec. 19, 2019 


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