CACTI call of Jan. 8, 2019
Attending
Members
- Chris Phillips, CANARIE (chair)
- Tom Barton, U. Chicago
- Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
- Rob Carter, Duke
- Jill Gemmill, Clemson
- Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech
- Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College
- Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT
Internet2
- Kevin Morooney
- Ann West
- Steve Zoppi
- Nick Roy
- David Walker
- Emily Eisbruch (scribe)
Regrets
Marina Adomeit, GEANT
Nathan Dors, U Washington
Tom Jordan, U Wisc - Madison
Les LaCroix, Carleton College
Action Items
- older: [AI] Chris will discuss future of Security and Audit WG w chairs of CTAB and TAC
- older: [AI] (ChrisP) follow up with Les and Christos on next steps for URN / OID registry.
CACTI Action items wiki: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/GoPdBg
Discussion
eduTEAMS - overview and insight
- Christos provided overview of eduTEAMS https://www.geant.org/Innovation/eduteams/Pages/Getting-Started.aspx
- Please see these slides:
There are several pilots underway
- Q: Proxy integrates the attributes sources, can you pull info about a given user?
- A: Yes, in dedicated version of eduteams
- Q: How many people to support eduTeams?
A: Five FTEs for development and operations. Will be adding more people for the bespoke service - Q: Is there a matrix or comparison of platforms different from COmanage? Which has which features?
A: Found it is not useful, from the recent pilots, hard for users to understand, better to do consulting to help understand what best fits the needs.
Note: It was requested that Christos share this info with CACTI anyhow, if it exists.
- Comments:
- Good to track lessons learned on scaling up eduTeams.
Interesting to see how the COmanage story dovetails with the eduTeams story - Thanks to Christos for the excellent presentation on eduTeams.
- Good to track lessons learned on scaling up eduTeams.
Proposed final draft of CACTI FIM4R review
Ready to call this the completed recommendation
Q: How do the recommendations in the CACTI FIM4R Assessment mesh with eduTeams ?
Jill: The FIM4R Assessment covers membership management and need for integration.
Large section of community does not warrant federal funding.
US NRENs do not have the staff that European NRENs have.
We would call on expertise with more emphasis on campus IDM staff and developers.
With larger number of people involved in sharing info on how to use the offering and where to go for help.
It was noted that eduTeams is the collaboration as a service aspect of the FIM4R report
Closely parallels the CI logon 2 offering that is offered in the USA
Sustainability is key
Providing a gateway for researchers
Small part of research community knows about it; communicating with the community about what offerings are available is very important
Ann: Next Campus Success Program (CSP) is key
We want to work with Trusted CI, help projects get up to speed
Looking at doing something like Campus Success Program (CSP), but with a focus on research and perhaps on campus research centers
Goal is to start building long-term infrastructure to handle the projects so they don’t have to go elsewhere for the infrastructure.
Long term play with interesting synergy
ChrisP : FIM4R report recommendations are able to be used to fortify the CSP in next steps, we don’t necessarily call it out in the FIMrR doc
Still need to write an exec summary for the FIM4R doc
Kevin:
CACTI did an expansive request for input
Feel confident taking this forward now
An important intermediate step is to do one or two passes and look at what is possible and broader planning constructs
There is half-day Internet2 exec planning team retreat later this week.
Kevin would like to share the FIM4R report as a draft, and as Internet2 confidential
Group agreed it is OK for Kevin to share the report at this point internal
Kevin would like to work on a communication strategy longer term for the FIM4R response work
Jill noted there would be benefit to sharing the FIM4R Response with the campus training events.
Ann suggested to share the current FIM4R response paper with those we reached out to for input (Component Architects, TAC, CTAB, etc) so they can preview; Then perhaps do a webinar. Ask Jim Basney, from CI Logon, to share his perspective
2019 planning - closer collaboration with TAC + Chairs?
- ChrisP has reached out to Janemarie and Keith Wessel of TAC to continue the conversation
- Would be great for CACTI to know more about the planning cycle and how can CACTI help
- Nick Roy could coordinate a planning meeting to discuss next steps, looking at major priorities.
- AnnW:
- We need to look at all the community recommendations reports we have received in past 6 months.
- Staff could then return to CACTI and others with questions on priorities.
- Christos:
- helpful to return to the reserach community with the recommendations
- Sometimes things get lost in translation
- AARC created recommendations along WITH the research community and this proved very helpful
- Involve others in addition to JimB
- TomB will try to help with that outreach to researchers
- Important to promote effective strategy around distribution of IAM skills on campus, distributed solutions to the research community needs.
CACTI Staffing
- Welcome Nick Roy as CACTI staff liaison.
- Emily Eisbruch will continue to serve as CACTI scribe
Next CACTI Meeting is Tuesday, January 22, 2019