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To start a U.S. team, we can't do things exactly the same way that Geant does things. They have a more hierarchical org structure, and they are more centrally funded. However, we can work together and get a rotating on call person to help with multi domain issues. If we can organize this, we could perhaps get NSF or DOE funding.  Part of the issue is that there are not a lot of people wtih experience for doing the longer latency paths. Physics organizations already have people on staffs dealing with this.  ESnet has about 3-4 engineers focusing on performance problems. Smaller scientific groups don't have the experience.  There are ways we could address needs there.

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Advantage of developing a U.S. Team: Spread the knowledge around on how to do this to more of the community. It's not just about solving the problem it's also about spreading the knowledge. Another goal is to put the knowledge into a process, make checklists, create a knowledge base, use techniques to make the effort scale. GEANT is making a knowledge base. ESnet, has 3-4 engineers that deal with performance related problems.  We need to be solving problems further outAlso, we can help end users gather info necessary to start analyzing problems.

A large part of the community doesn't realize the bad performance is not acceptable. They don't know what they should be getting. So we   We should get folks educated on expectations and get them to complain if they don't get it.We can help end users gather info necessary to start analyzing problems.

Anyone interested in working on defining what this might be, please send Jeff or Carla an email.

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