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New Action Items from this call

  • Chris Hyzer : Put  - put  the idea of changing the Group Screen to show higher level info in a Jira  and/or on the Grouper roadmap  
  •  Chris Hyzer – post more source code for the UPenn email use case, per community requests
  •  Shilen - check that Grouper doc on composites is up to date. The   developer doc is here:  https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Composite+changes  Are there items/implications that should be in the main Grouper wiki? 

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  • March 12-15, 2024, online
  • https://incommon.org/academy/grouper-school/
  • New self-paced training in 2024.  
  • Advanced topic for Grouper self-paced training:

    • Provisioning?  
    • GSH templates?  Could GSH Template be a walk thru guide, as UI element? This will open possibilities in how to “walk thru” things in Grouper. Requires API knowledge
    • GSH daemon?  
    • GSH?  
    • Loader?  
    • Subject sources (not used often enough)?  
    • Data fields (too soon)? 
    • ABAC (too soon)?
    • SCIM provisioner 


Steve Zoppi 

  • Comments on big picture in Trust and Identity in 2024
  • We are at an important junction
  • 2023 was good for training and other outreach
  • Grouper stands alone, no other products do what Grouper does 
  • Commercial sector addresses our space poorly 
  • Efforts to address Grouper documentation are valuable and appreciated
  • Progress has been made in weeding out old Grouper doc
  • In 2023, Internet2 engaged a firm Second Muse to coordinate development  of InCommon Futures Report
  • Also Internet2 developed new 5 year plan 
  • Community's perception has evolved
  • Used to be the projects would develop whatever ideas the community came up with
  • Now there is an expectation that Internet2, the catalysts and the projects (such as Grouper), will help make up for situation where institutions are losing some of the their institutional memory on HOW TO DO things around identity management
  • Complexity of use cases is increasing
  • Number of people experienced enough to address use cases is decreasing
  • Internet2/InCommon component architects meet every 2 weeks. Chris Hyzer and Chris Hubing join those calls
  • 2024 Statement of Work Guidance 
  • 2024 Statements of Work - Guidance (Final) - Google Docs
  • Grouper team members, please read 2024 Statement of Work Guidance 
  • Priorities include quality code, documentation, ease of use, 
  • This year telemetry (understanding who is using the products)  becomes even more important, 
  • consistent packaging
  • Documentation must be completed concurrent with release 
  • Grouper team members, please read 2024 Statement of Work Guidance 

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  • Question: Tradeoff between offering and “selling” doc and training
  • Doc and training complement each other
  • Gray line between: how much to do in video versus in written material 
  • Want a reasonable balance between written doc for reference doc for practitioners implementing, and want non technical documentation so people can understand how Grouper can address their use cases

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