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CTAB Call Tuesday, December 13, 2022


  • David Bantz, University of Alaska (chair)
  • Pål Axelsson, SUNET
  • Tom Barton, Internet2, ex-officio 
  • Ercan Elibol, Florida Polytechnic University 
  • Richard Frovarp,  North Dakota State
  • Eric Goodman, UCOP - InCommon TAC Representative to CTAB
  • Mike Grady, Unicon
  • Johnny Lasker, Internet2
  • Kyle Lewis, Research Data and Communication Technologies 
  • Jon Miner, University of Wisc - Madison (co-chair)
  • Andy Morgan, Oregon State University
  • Andrew Scott, Internet2
  • Albert Wu, Internet2  
  • Emily Eisbruch, scribe, Internet2


  • Warren Anderson, LIGO
  • Matt Eisenberg, NIAID
  • Scott Green, Eastern Washington U
  • Meshna Koren, Elsevier
  • Rick Wagner, UCSD 
  • Chris Whalen, Research Data and Communication Technologies  
  • Jule Ziegler,  Leibniz Supercomputing Centre
  • Robert Zybeck, Portland Community College
  • Ann West, Internet2  
  • Kevin Morooney, Internet2


Intellectual Property reminder


Attendee introductions, gratitudes, & hopes

  • David Bantz- IAM Dept U of Alaska, it’s a privilege to serve as chair of CTAB.
    New opportunities and challenges include:  WebAuthN (could be end of passwords), self sovereign identity 

  • Eric Goodman, University of California Office of the President -  have 15 to 20 IDP operators, each with own IAM systems, some fed from employee systems, some fed student systems, System is looking at becoming more cloud oriented and more SAS oriented.  

  • Andy Morgan, Oregon State University - team of 3 working on IAM, enjoyed Tech Ex, presented at Tech Ex, along with University of Chicago, on Commercial Identity Systems in higher ed.  

  • Johnny Lasker, Internet2 and InCommon - enjoyed meeting the community in person at Tech Ex in Denver

  • Tom Barton, currently with Internet2, previously with U. Chicago -  glad that the Federation 2.0 work concluded in 2022.  There is a need to be better organized to handle challenges and threats. There is hope for the future. 

  • Pal Axelsson, SUNET - Does a lot of international work, with focus on policy.  Has been active in edugain Steering group. TechEx was a highlight.  Next year, working on digital wallets.  Hope to build an OpenID Connect Federation. 

  • Ercan Elibol, Florida Polytechnic University - appreciates the big picture serving on CTAB provides

  • Richard Frovarp,  North Dakota State - has wide remit in his position at ND State.   Has been re-growing the group.

  • Albert Wu, Internet2 and InCommon - grateful for the community.  At Tech Ex, it was good to see many new faces.  The changes coming in the browser world present an opportunity.  May be helpful to de-couple technology (SAML) from policy.

  • Jon Miner, U of Wisconsin - moved into Security Lead role about 6 months ago after many years in IAM.  Seeing the community at Tech Ex was great

  • Mike Grady, architect with Unicon - has served as liaison from CACTI to CTAB.  Will be a CTAB member next year.  Tech Ex was a highlight. 

  • Kyle Lewis, Research Data and Communication Technologies - much work for NIAID, works with Chris Whalen.  Brings in researchers to help solve problems such as COVID.  Needs to translate what the international community does in identity assurance into US standards.  Appreciated the cyber security exercises in 2022.  Hope to renew the SIRTFI tabletop working group for next year.  

  • Andrew Scott, Internet2, Info Security Lead for InCommon - has broad background in compliance and regulation and security.  Available to help 

  • Emily Eisbruch, CTAB scribe, welcome to new CTAB members,  thanks to those CTAB members who review and approve the CTAB minutes. 

CTAB 2023 Workplan items

  • Public CTAB Workplan 2022
  • Many of the 2022 items will likely continue into 2023
  • Note: Consultation on REFEDs MFA Profile is still open until Jan. 15, 2023:
  • In 2023 CTAB should revisit the 2022 CTAB work plan item:  “Settle how we’ll handle TLS security”
    • A proposal was developed in 2022 but no firm decision was made

  • An important topic: how to encourage services to become InCommon ready (ready for federation) or eduGAIN Ready
    • “X Ready” could be a marketing sort of thing we use, eg, “Research Ready” and “InCommon Ready” and “eduGAIN Ready”
  • REFEDs baseline expectations was finished within past two years and the REFEDs Baseline Expectations working group is closed
  • Could be beneficial if federations put in writing how we are meeting baseline expectations

Next CTAB Call: Tuesday, January 10, 2023, at 1pm ET