CTAB Call Tuesday September 20, 2022

Attending

• Jon Miner, University of Wisc - Madison (co-chair) 
• Richard Frovarp,  North Dakota State
• Rick Wagner, UCSD  
• Chris Whalen, Research Data and Communication Technologies 
• Eric Goodman, UCOP - InCommon TAC Representative to CTAB 
• Tom Barton, Internet2, ex-officio 
• Albert Wu, Internet2  
• Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 
• Andrew Scott, Internet2 

Regrets

• David Bantz, University of Alaska (chair)
• Pål Axelsson, SUNET 
• Sarah Borland, University of Nebraska  
• Ercan Elibol, Florida Polytech Institute
• Mike Grady, Liaison from CACTI to CTAB 
• Meshna Koren, Elsevier 
• Andy Morgan, Oregon State University 
• Dave Robinson, Grinnell College in Iowa, InCommon Steering Rep, ex-officio
• Jule Ziegler,  Leibniz Supercomputing Centre
• Robert Zybeck, Portland Community College
• Johnny Lasker, Internet2 
• Kevin Morooney, Internet2
• Ann West, Internet2

Discussion

• Intellectual Property reminder

Working group updates

• REFEDS MFA Subgroup 

• • https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/Community+Chat%3A+REFEDS+MFA+Profile+v1.1 
  • Concluded work, material is on wiki, and feedback is invited
  • There will be a chat on the profile on  Oct 6
  • This is not yet the formal consultation stage (final stage of accepting edits from the community)
  • It is a pause / sanity check to obtain more feedback before next steps 
  • There are some potentially controversial points
  • Question in the past two days: To what extent will issues around fishing motivate more focus on MFA?
    
    
• CACTI
  • talked about the Linking SSO subgroup
    
    
• InCommon TAC
  • Talked about REFEDs MFA profile and why there has not been much feedback so far.
  • Also talked  about TechEx planning. 
  • Neils Van Dyke will come to an upcoming TAC meeting to discuss distributed  Identity.
  • InCommon TAC presentation on activities regarding Digital Wallet use/adoption coming up. Intention is to reschedule this.   
    
    
• REFEDs Assurance Working Group  
  • Completed work on the criteria defining  IAP.
  • Now going over the work and getting ready for a rewrite into better prose. 
  • The REFEDs Assurance Framework will hopefully go to consultation before TechEx.
  • Criteria are comprehensive.
  • Extends Research Assurance Framework v1. 
    
    
• Entity Categories Working Group:  no update  
  
  
• SIRTFI   
  •   SIRTFI v2 was completed and published
    
    
• SIRTFI Tabletop Exercise    
  • This effort is in Phase 1, communications test for organizations who will participate in the exercise in November

Baseline Expectations v2 update - where we stand at late September

• Albert has reached out to all the commercial orgs on the non compliance w BEV2 list. 
• Some issues with contacts being incorrect.  Hope to get updates.  
• Albert has not yet reached out out to the Higher Ed orgs on the list.  At end of this week Albert will reach out to them
• Some entities are not online, not visible on the internet,  thus not scannable
• Implementation guidance says entities should be visible
• https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/federation/meet-baseline-expectations
• How to handle and clarify requirements? This could be a post BEv2 conversation 
• Q: Is there a requirement for re validation of entities over time?
• Albert: This is being discussed
• Idea: Entity will only remain in metadata if it is attested as still valid
• Concern: campus uses certs for WIFI auth. Every year you must re-accept the cert that comes through, this is an end user requirement. IT staff has to hope that users do this before classes
• Suggestion to have an InCommon exec contact and another contact level too
•     May look at this more closely in 2023
• We will need to remove some commercial SPs. Starting in October, Albert will  start to notify campuses that may be impacted, asking them to contact their vendor. 
  
  

Recruiting for CTAB - what type of talents/skillsets/influences are we looking for in next years CTAB recruits? 

• • https://incommon.org/community/leadership/
  • https://www.incommon.org/news/bring-your-unique-expertise-to-incommon-advisory-committees/
  • A CTAB member whose term is expiring has the option to stand for election to another term
  • Nominations are happening now. New terms start in January 2023.
  • We may want to work towards staggered end dates for CTAB seats
  • Would be good to have more representation on CTAB from the library and research community 
  • NIH and NSF representation on CTAB is helpful
  • Representation from a commercial SP would be helpful
    

Next CTAB Call: Tuesday, Oct. 4