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CTAB Call of  Wed Wed. Nov. 728, 2018  

 Attending

  

(this was an off-week call to replace the cancelled call of Nov. 21, 2018)

Attending

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  • Mary Catherine Martinez, InnoSoft (vice chair)  David Bantz, University of Alaska  

  • Tom Barton, University Chicago and Internet2  Chris Hable, University of Michigan  

  • Ted Hanss, Yale  ?

  • Joanna Rojas, Duke

  • Jon Miner, University of Wisc - MadisonMadison 

  • Chris Whalen, Research Data and Communication Technologies -  

  • Albert Wu, Internet2 -  Ann West

  • Emily Eisbruch, Internet2  

  • Kevin Morooney, Internet2

  • Emily Eisbruch, Internet2      

Regrets:

  • Chris Whalen, National Institute of Health  

Regrets

  • Brett Bieber, University of Nebraska (chair)

  • David Bantz, University of Alaska

  • Chris Hable, University of Michigan  

  • Joanna Rojas, Duke

  • Ann West, Internet2

Action Items  New Action Items

[AI]

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[AI] Albert follow up on notifying delegated SP admins about health check issues

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AI (Emily) summarize the plan for the revised BE Maintenance doc  and other Baseline Expectations Documents (DONE)

 (Albert) set up a call w TAC Chairs and other key individuals to discuss SP badging issues. (Done)
[AI]  (TomB, Ann and ChrisW) brainstorm names to join CTAB  
(Done)
 

DISCUSSION 

Baseline Expectations Maintenance Docs (TomB)

  • The group discussed progress on the Baseline Expectations Maintenance documents
  • TomB will resolve the current comments.  
  • 
The Consultation on TI.105.1 (BE Maintenance Doc) was in June 2017 to Aug 2017

  • The new dispute resolution doc TI.118.1 is primarily taken from the TI.105.1 document. 
  •  The group thought consultation on TI.118.1 likely not needed as there are not substantive changes from the dispute resolution process that went through  community consultation as part of TI.105.1. We could notify the community of the changes instead of doing a consultation. The new version does eliminate the review board aspect.
  •  CTAB will need to notify InCommon Steering of the updated process to dispute resolution. In January Steering chooses a chair. Steering can vote starting in Feb. 2019.

 Discussion of  Dec. 14, 2018 target date for meeting all metadata health check elements of BE

  • About 159 orgs not meeting BE currently, about 2500 entities
  • During 3rd stage we want to establish mitigation plan
  • Only where there is no response does InCommon need to consider removal from metadata
  • Suggestion to have levels, categories of organizations 
  • If an org is not responding to any outreach then that is a simpler case
  • Suggestion to create a plan on how to approach the data on orgs not meeting BE
  • Albert: suggestion to reach out to InCommon billing contact when other contacts do not respond
  • Mitigation plans can include extensions for particular organizations
  • It’s about using good judgment to deal with tough situation
  • Blog on Baseline Expectations: Huge Progress by the Community https://www.internet2.edu/blogs/detail/16925

Older Action item

[AI] (Ann and Tom) follow up with Chris and Warren to look over some of the particulars of academic collaborator organizations and select one to make a meaningful contact.

 

DISCUSSION

BE Maintenance Documents

TomB updated the BE Maintenance document with decisions made during tabletop exercises

  • Dispute resolution should be broken out to a different doc   

  • Please provide feedback by Wed next week. Nov 14, 2018

  • Will do a community consultation

  • Hope for final version by end of Dec.

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Next steps towards Dec. 14, 2018 deadline for meeting baseline

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BE Office Hours   

https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/sALxBg

Recruiting new CTAB members  CTAB Charter: http://doi.org/10.26869/TI.94.1Brett emailed recruitment email (soon after this CTAB call). Recruitment posting on wiki is here: 

  • https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/9YBHC

  • Brett, Joanna and Ted complete terms in Dec 2018

  • If Ted is selected for another 3 year term on InCommon Steering, he could potentially continue on CTAB as the Steering Rep.  But it’s also healthy to get another Steering member familiar with the work of CTAB.

  • Joanna happy to help with recruiting.  Having an auditor on CTAB is helpful. ACUA http://www.acua.org/ACUA/College_University_Auditors.asp  is a good venue for outreach.  Joanna’s other professional circles.

  • Brett open to serving an additional term on CTAB

Service Provider Standards

  • Jack Suess, UMBC, sent email around service provider standards

    • Jack  wondered if we can increase value of federation

    • We need members participating at the fullest

    • Jack notes that now there are SPs on the participants list that are not up to standards

  • Ann had interesting conversation with a CIO at EDUCAUSE

    • All of the service providers for that campus adhere to BE except for 3.  The CIO would be happy to have them removed from metadata.

  • Before an SP could be removed, there will be questions on who registered the SP and who uses the service

  • We are currently sending the health check info to site admins and asking them to manage the SPs on their campus

  • This is right for the current stage.

  • When/if there is ever a recommendation to remove, we should escalate and communicate with the exec

  • It might help if we sent a stern letter for CIO to share with the non complying SPs? Hard to know, but during the dispute resolution process CTAB will exhaust all possibilities

  • There can be delegated site admins in federation manager

  • contacting the right person, the right SP admin, can be a challenge

  • We support delegated SP admins,  should we notify them of the health check issues? Perhaps bring this up on the Ops call?  Albert will follow up.

  • [AI] Albert will follow up on the topic of notifying delegated SP admins about health check issues

  • Next Steps on Service Provider Standards

    • Kevin notes that Internet2 Net+ is also looking at badging

    • InCommon TAC is looking at more interoperability between IdPs and SPs

    • From an organizational assurance/trust level, combine various metrics into a “stamp of approval”

    • Suggestion that CTAB formally request from InCommon Ops that they combine the different metrics into a consolidated list 

    • Coordination between InCommon TAC and CTAB on this issue would be helpful

    • [AI] (MC and Brett)  reach out to chairs of InCommon TAC about initial conversations around SP badging issues, and include AnnW and Albert in the conversations.

 Next CTAB call

  • CTAB charter says The CTAB should consist of between seven and thirteen voting members.

  • AI TomB and Ann and ChrisW brainstorm names to join CTAB and Tom will reach out to key individuals

[AI]  (Emily)  schedule CTAB calls weekly until end of January in preparation for actions after the Dec 14 target date to meeting Baseline.   Add 2 weeks from today Dec 12. Add Jan 9 and Jan 23  2019. (done)

Next CTAB call: Wed., Dec. 5, 2018

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