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InCommon Steering Committee Minutes - September 26, 2016

(joint F2F meeting with TCIC at TechEx) Minutes 


InCommon Steering 


With: Kevin Morooney, Dave Lambert, David Gift (remotely), Chris Spadanuda, Ann West, Steve Zoppi, Ana Hunsinger (remotely)

Trust and Identity PAG

There was discussion about the process for creating a Trust and Identity PAG (Program Advisory Group) and how to constitute the PAG membership. There is agreement that a PAG should be created by Global Summit.


[AI] (Klara) will ask John Moribito about whether non-Internet2 members can be on a PAG

InCommon Paths Forward Review

Kevin summarized the results from the “paths forward” meetings held in June and July; specifically the staffing models and funding requirements. 


The overall flow of this, then, is to push the fee increase, develop the PAG, and then work with the PAG on the longer term sustainability issues.  

TIER Update 

Steve Zoppi reviewed the material that will be covered at the investor meeting. He noted that there are a number of items “in progress,” given the slower than anticipated pace. Klara noted, however, that the packaging work and the TIER demos were completed in time for TechEx.


There was discussion about whether to use release numbers for TIER. The plan has been to use a continuous release schedule, but release numbers could be added if they would be useful. The feedback was that release numbers would communicate momentum and could help in the drive to adoption. There would also be value in announcing whenever a campus goes into production with TIER.

Sustainability and Next Steps

The last meeting of the TIER investors included significant information about the existing funding gap. This time, we don’t have that message in the presentation. We may not want to make that the focus of the presentation, but it seems as if it should remain part of the conversation. If the gap is closing, we should talk about how it is being managed.

Baseline Expectations

The InCommon Assurance Advisory Committee is recommending adopting baseline expectations  or minimum standards for InCommon participation. This recommendation was reviewed by members of the community and none were seen as controversial or unreasonable. However, we need to consider how to deal with chronic non-compliance, as well as communicating both the risks (such as security) for such non-compliance and the penalties. 

Further discussion was deferred to the next Steering meeting.

Briefing with Dave Lambert and message to TIER Investors

InCommon Steering and TCIC discussed some of the items from this morning with Dave Lambert. Klara said the group is committed to having a PAG structure in place by the 2017 Global Summit, and that the PAG’s first order of business will be to set up a structure that accommodates InCommon, TIER, and Trust and Identity overall.


One of the challenges in funding, worldwide, will be ensuring that there is a model that includes all of the NRENS that benefit from the work (say, of Shibboleth). We need a model that involves investment from those that are heavily involved and able, along with those who may be less savvy or prepared. We can’t have a model where a few are paying the way for all.

Next Meeting - Full Steering - October 10 - 4 pm ET