Agenda
- Roll Call (by timezone - East to West)
- Scribe Shout-out
- Agenda Bash
Main Topic - Future of the SIS - Jim Phelps
- Itana Org Updates (if any)
- Working Group Updates
- New2EA Working Group
- API Working Group
- Business Architecture Working Group
- Steering Committee Update
- Women in EA Working Group
- Face2Face 2020 - Boston - Leading Change as an Architect
Attendees
Announcements - Itana News, Working Group Report out
Topic Title (Future of the Student Information System)
Slide deck - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dNF85RdRyOaXMHPlzL8KI2ON8x9apoF8T9TjGFy4JYE/edit#slide=id.p
- Context - HBR article: Strategy is a Wicked Problem
- Issues adding to the wickedness
- Repository (all the data)
- Student - role has changed
- Leave the Plumbing, Remodel the House (Carrie Shumaker, UMich-Dearborn)
- Using the Pace layer (Gartner)
- leave the data repository
- use APIs
- build out the student experience
- SIS is more than a transactional system (e.g., Finance, HR, Payroll), you need to manage student relationships
- IDM could be considered an ERP ... take a step back and consider what we need from an ERP
- Can your smaller engines (systems) carry you as you rebuild your plumbing?
- As the student environment evolves, the data is the student's and we are managing their data (from potentially many sources)
- Aligning the Student Experience
- How do we avoid many system touches that negatively impact the student experience?
- Shrink the SIS to the record level (layer 1)
- Units would be forced to look at their business processes, clean up data problem, and data literacy
- Other thoughts
- Innovation will occur among those who have a system view and recognize their (small/niche) role in the ecosystem
- Think of the student as the boundary of many systems
- CHAT contents
- 13:15:26 From James J Phelps : https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dNF85RdRyOaXMHPlzL8KI2ON8x9apoF8T9TjGFy4JYE/edit#slide=id.p
13:16:59 From Ed Melchior : Add in the multiple types programs - traditional, experience-based, non-term programs13:19:05 From Paul Erickson : - ERP is a bit like a brontosaurus trying to make its way around downtown Chicago… it can blunder around, but it was never evolved for the environment it’s currently making its way around. Definitely a wicked problem.
- 13:21:21 From Dave Berry : Doesn't the innovation layer apply more to the teaching system?13:21:41 From Piet Niederhausen :
- On slide 16, I think of Student on this slide more as the whole domain.
- 13:22:08 From Piet Niederhausen : And I do think of teaching & learning solutions as part of the Student domain … but terminology can vary.13:22:24
- From Richard Gould (ASU) : To have a flexible system that allows changing requirements, varied student enrollment types, an API layered approach is definitely the way to go imho
13:25:09 From James J Phelps : https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dNF85RdRyOaXMHPlzL8KI2ON8x9apoF8T9TjGFy4JYE/edit#slide=id.p13:30:36 From J. - J. Du Chateau : I wonder if some of that is because vendors are retrofitting existing architectures. LIke Paul & Betsy said, they old house wasn't designed for this.
- 13:39:41 From Piet Niederhausen : The underlying methodology here is based in Risdon, Orchestrating Experiences: https://www.amazon.com/Orchestrating-Experiences-Collaborative-Design-Complexity/dp/193382073X13:45:00 From James J Phelps : Does this change how you think about SIS
- in the future?
13:53:00 From Sowmya Shankar : I think the barebones way of looking at SIS will also positively impact any upgrade/patches for these systems. - Tools13:54:59 From Dave Berry : thanks for the presentation and discussion.
13:55:15 From J.J. Du Chateau : Great discussion. Thanks Jim!
13:56:51 From J.J. Du Chateau : - I would add interactive whiteboard capabilities too
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13:57:33 From Beth Schaefer : Yes, I’ve wanted a whiteboard…
13:57:49 From J.J. Du Chateau : Can I lower my hand now? My armn is getting tired
13:57:56 From Ladan Heit : Hello everyone; Ladan Heit from Waterloo Ontario (Laurier) checking in13:58:10 From Alberto D. Mendoza : - I've seen some threads lately around whiteboarding... we should start an email thread
13:58:39 From J.J. Du Chateau : Alberto, the - The topic came up with the last book report on "Back of the Napkin"
13:58:43 From Alberto D. Mendoza : - and by threads lately I meant to say Twitter threads
13:59:25 From Alberto D. Mendoza : @JJ that was pre-covid19
- Itana Org Updates (if any)
- Working Group Updates
- New2EA Working Group - April 8
- API Working Group
- Business Architecture Working Group
- Steering Committee Update
- Women in EA Working Group - April 23, 1 pm, Topic: Unconscious Bias
- Face2Face 2020 - Boston - Leading Change as an Architect
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