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Date:
Feb 12, 2014
Time:
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Agenda:
- Announcements, new agenda items
- InC Counsel discussions of eduGAIN policy/CoC
- Outcomes (again) of eduGAIN policy framework review?
- Refed plans/progress on international R&S entity category
- Priorities and planning for upcoming months
- AOB
Attending:
Warren, IJ, Ian, John, Tom
Recording:
Minutes:
- Announcements=20
- None.
- InC Counsel discussions of eduGAIN policy/CoC=20
- John has had another meeting. Hoping to wrap up their review by Friday.=
Will take their issues to InC steering. Breakdown of discussions has been =
from a contractual standpoint and from data exchange standpoint - PII, IR, =
etc. It appears that there are not many issues, if any, preventing us from =
signing declaration. Follow-on issues with importing and exporting metadata=
that are currently being discussed. There looks like some particular langu=
age in InC agreement that might need modification. There are questions as t=
o how changing all the existing agreements might work. The particular langu=
age has to do with sharing metadata with other InC - does it exclude other =
sharing. Ian thinks that this report is extremely positive. He is anticipat=
ing that participation would be opt-in, and if so, wouldn't that mitigate c=
oncerns over limiting language in the current agreement? John agrees that t=
he initial participation will be limited, largely due to scaling concerns i=
nitially. But there are other implementations, like opt-out, so it is usefu=
l to consider whether we are forced into opt-in model by existing language.=
Another issue is whether contact information is PII for the purposes of ex=
port. This is under current investigation. Ian says that the UK federation =
has the view that it is considered implicit in the participant agreement th=
at mass export of data to eduGAIN is OK, but that it would probably adjust =
the agreement if an opt-out model were to be implemented. But with opt-in, =
one does not need to wait until the niceties are understood before starting=
actual participation. John agrees that this does allow staged participatio=
n. John notes that CoC is off the agenda for legal review at the moment sin=
ce it is optional to streamline the process. Raises the question of when to=
bring it back up.
- Outcomes (again) of eduGAIN policy framework review=20
- John thinks that it would be useful to have such a document. It can be =
concise and focused. Warren will volunteer to put a first version together =
based on the minutes from the review meetings and then ask for others to ch=
ip in.
- Interfed plans/progress on international R&S entity category=20
- Steven is out today, no report.
- Priorities and planning for upcoming months=20
- Document from review of eduGAIN policy framework.
- Review of charter.
- Internationalization of R&S - what can we do to help? LIGO thinks t=
his an important initiative. Tom thinks this is low-hanging fruit. TAC eval=
uated REFEDs proposal with recommendations. Other recommendations and comme=
nts were made. They just need to be incorporated. John suggests we could pe=
rhaps offer up the time slot if that helps. Tom thinks that CoC is an impor=
tant part of this question. John is not so sure that this is needed yet - a=
re IdPs currently bound? Today, can an EU IdP release attributes to a US SP=
? Ian says yes, the CoC is a formalization of the process, but an IdP can r=
elease whatever it deems consistent with the prevailing privacy laws. So Co=
C and R&S are both mechanisms to streamline and automate the attribute =
release needed. Tom envisions CoC entity category. John thinks that eduGAIN=
adoption and R&S categories are priorities. If there is a discrete act=
ivity that we can conscript SPs into that might be a good spinoff.
- John brings up quilt inCommon meeting that just ended. Paul gave a brie=
f review of our efforts for that. Warren says that the only thing he has be=
en able to solicit is that there is a forum needed. John thinks that there =
are other forums evolving for this.
- AOB=20
- None.
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