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December 18, 2013
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Review of EduGain =EF=BB=BFPolicy Framework Declaration
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Warren, Ian, Paul, Tom, Steven, Mark, SteveO
Declaration point-by-point:
6. Tom asks if it is just the metadata registration practice statement o= r the participation agreements are also included. Ian answers that it could= be both. Tom ask if the metadata registration practice statement is not re= quired to be in the metadata itself. Ian answers that that's in the metadat= a profile document, but may be optional in the metadata. Each participating= federation provides a link for a policy document.
7. Basically says that no additional rules of behavior are implied for m= ember entities of participating federation by joining edugain. Therefore, i= f one does not like the way a federation operates, one can simply remove th= eir metadata from the edugain feed.
8. Steve asks if there have been any complaints about members in UK. Ian= says it's only been a month, but there has been no complaint and he does n= ot expect any. Some effort to deal with metadata that is not "up to snuff".= Most use at this point is for non-critical applications, so the pressure i= s relatively low. Steven thinks that this might begin to change when their = are applications that are seen to be of higher stakes. That might be a deca= de or more away.
9. Warren thinks it's odd that there is no extra legal obligation when w= e are getting legal advice on this. Ian says that this is really a statemen= t that federations are not going to require or expect legal obligations of = other federations or their members. Tom points out that there are existing = agreements between federations and participants that need to be honored an<= /p>
10. Straightforward, no discussion.
11. Tom finds this to be strange - as a federation one wants participant= s to sort out issues without intervention from the federation. Warren reads= this as eduGain wanting to take the same stance between participating fede= rations - if there a disagreement between federations eduGain will not be r= esponsible for resolving it.
12. Related, but note quite directly addressed, is the question of publi= shers or other international businesses. InCommon charges a fee but other f= ederations, like the UK federation, don't. Does this mean that the business= model for InCommon changes if we join eduGain? Ian thinks so - there are n= o barriers to businesses being published in other federations. Warren point= s out that international research VOs are in the same boat. Tom points out = that REAP(?) service (managed by REFEDS) is scheduled to go into production= in 2014, so that's another option. Ian is a member of that project. He is = unsure how federation operators will interact. Currently there is a chicken= and egg problem - until there is something worth consuming it's not worth = figuring out.
13. Not a point that people are concerned about - seems to be more to do= with distinguishing withdrawal from failure to propagate metadata.
AOB:
1. Next telecon on Jan. 8