16:02:20 From Marc Wallman to Everyone : I have another meeting at 3:30pm CDT
16:03:17 From Ann West to Everyone : Having a bit of lunch and it’s soupy soup, so leaving my camera off for the time being.
16:12:25 From Ann West to Everyone : Love that quote, Mark!
16:24:58 From Ann West to Everyone : Great comment, Laura: it’s a trust network except that people don’t trust it enough to release attributes.
16:31:21 From Laura Paglione to Everyone : Though for so many service providers, authentication - sign in, is all that they get from identity providers. often no information that enable authorization or even true identity are provided.
16:32:34 From Ann West to Everyone : And that is a problem. Federated auth is not unique to R&E…Attributes are.
16:32:37 From Laura Paglione to Everyone : In these cases, The information is provided elsewhere - by a proxy, a linked account, etc.
16:32:53 From Laura Paglione to Everyone : ^^ yes, Ann
16:34:11 From Ann West to Everyone : Increasingly, enabling signaling for additional security around the identity is a bit unique. Enabling an SP to ask for MFA context or id proofing is also unique….for now.
16:37:05 From Margaret to Everyone : A particular university or research institution only needs to know/verify that all of the attributes they care about are correct for the people they authenticate, not for everyone in the world.
16:38:00 From Margaret to Everyone : If the authorization flows through a university or research institution, couldn’t the attributes be added there, rather than pushing them into google?
16:38:20 From Klaas Wierenga to Everyone : that’s basically what we do with eduTEAMS
16:38:35 From Margaret to Everyone : Right.
16:38:54 From Klaas Wierenga to Everyone : but that is partly because attribute authorities are broken
16:39:49 From Klaas Wierenga to Everyone : claim aggregation for oidc works a bit better, but still problematic
16:40:22 From Laura Paglione to Everyone : This is the core of what ORCID is - and this is an international NGO with over 11 million users.
16:49:40 From Kevin/Internet2 to Everyone : i’m going to put a pin in the conversation (which has been GREAT - thank you) with 5 min left in the hour - to fix a mistake and take a quick temperature on if/how/where to continue the dialogue
16:55:54 From Klaas Wierenga to Everyone : are we becoming a niche player then?