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April 23, 2007 - K20 Advisory Committee Meeting - Internet2 Spring Member Meeting

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Note on videos: Videos are in MPEG4 DivX or XviD format. Download the free DivX player OR install a codec such as FFDShow in order to use Media Player or QuickTime OR use the excellent and robust VLC player. If all you wish to do is view the videos - Dan STRONGLY suggest you download them and view them in VLC.  I have had luck by downloading the FFDShow codec to Windows Media v.11.  Thank you Dan Gross and Joseph Cassis for all your work recording this meeting for those unable to attend.

Dan's additional video notes: In addition to the XviD/DivX formats, we're also trying to upload them to video.google.com as well so you can instantly watch them via streaming. Flash greatly reduces the quality of the video files - BUT - they are almost instantly accessable. "download" will send you the XviD in AVI format. "watch" will take you to Google. Hopefully at some point Confluence will be updated with a patch to support "embed" and then we'll put the videos right here in the wiki! (Might need to do a little design template first though!)

*Attendees (*please add your name if we missed you! Thanks.)

Ruth Blankenbaker, IN
Joseph Cassis, IA
Marshall Chambers, GA
Rick Chlopan, KY
Bob Collie, TN 
Andrea Deau, WI
Elwood Downing, MI
Sarah Edson, CT
Sherilyn Evans, CA
Louis Fox, WA
Larry Gallery, NY
Bill Giddings, MO
Judith Graves, Library of Congress
Merle Gruener, IN
Phil Halstead, FL
Doug Heacock, KS
Kathy Kraemer, MN
Robert Lahr, PA
George Laskaris, NJ
David Lois, WI
Myron Lowe, MN
Bo Lowrey, KY
Charlie McMickle, NJ
Dave McDonald, GA
Jim Moran, Merit
Kim Owen, ND
Jennifer Oxenford, PA
Sheri Prupis, NJ
Dave Pokerney, FL
Kaica Reynolds, KS
Michael Rohwer, MI
Dana Rogers, OH
Pat Sine, DE
Tim Sizemore, KY
Don Spiren, MD
Randy Stout, KS
David Stroud, NASA Goddard
Rob Symberlist, United Kingdom
Dan Updegrove, TX
Jeanne Weber, NY
James Werle, WA
Carol Willis, TX
Fred Winter, NEH
Tonya Witherspoon, KS
Bob Wolffe, IL
Ann Zimmerman, OH

Discussion 

Internet2 Awareness (Andrea Deau) [download or watch]

  • no PPT
  • Discuss progress on the "awareness button" image that brands a SEGP organization as Internet2-enabled.
  • The idea is for these buttons to be placed on websites and point back to a page with more information on Internet2.
  • This effort dovetails nicely into the K20 social networking web project.  SEGPs can create a web presence on the new K20 site and link the button to this website.

  • TO DO: 

  • Andrea will follow up with Greg Wood on the various design ideas.

One-Day Internet2 workshop  (Jennifer Oxenford, Ruth Blankenbaker)  [download or watch]

  • no PPT presentation - See the Survey Results:  http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=814023486478
  • Explore opportunities for broadening participation beyond the bi-annual Member Meeting K20 f2f meeting. 
  • A web survey was conducted to help define what people wanted -  77% in favor of a regional K20 day.
  • How will it be funded?  How will it be organized?  Where should it be hosted?
  • Important for it to be face to face so folks can actually interact together. 
    COSN and NECC - only k-12.   We should choose a venue that is K-20, not just a k-12 event. 
  • I2 demos are the most demanded part of any program - VC, remote instruments, etc.
  • Which of the demo clips are useful? What is most used? Where are there gaps?

  • TO DO:

  • Create a survey to poll people the use of the video clips (list them), identify gaps. Form a working group to try something this year.  Contact Jennifer to join the effort!  She will be in touch with those who have expressed interest.
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K20 Social Networking Website Progress Report (James Werle, Jennifer Oxenford) [download or watch]

  •   PPT Presentation
  • Take a look at the presentation for a complete project update.
  • The beta site will be available by the Fall MM in San Diego.

  • TO DO:

  • James and Jennifer will be in touch about beta testing the new site during the summer.  Please let James and Jennifer know if your SEGP would like to engage on this project. 
  • We will continue to work with CILC, ResearchChannel, UKERNA, and others to find ways to integrate our systems. 

Development of a International Collaboration Service Prototype (Robert Symberlist-UK Schools Strategy Group Manager, UKERNA) [missing video?]

  • PPT Presentation
  • more presentations:  http://www.ja.net/community/schools/rob.html
  • The collaboration system will allow teachers from across the UK to connect with each other and content providers (museums, libraries, etc.) around VC opportunties.
  • Beta rollout in June 2007.  See the presentation for complete project details.

Case Study: NASA Internet2 Initiatives - Bob Gabrys, Chief Education Officer, NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center; Dan Laughlin, NASA Learning Technologies; David B. Stroud, Multimedia/Edu. Tech. Sr. Producer, UMBC Goddard Earth Science &Technology Center [download or watch]

  • PPT Presentation (667 MB file containing simulation video clips highlighting many non-VC applications.  These are keynote files (not PPT) but the videos can be extracted and the slides converted to PPT) 
  • NASA education framework
    • Best way to understand NASAs education framework is to start at the top of the pyramid (employment)
    • Shared the eEducation roadmap - http://learners.gsfc.nasa.gov/NLT/road.html - moving toward 3D immersive (synthetic) environments - Internet2 offering great possibilities.
    • Talked about SecondLife and World of WarCraft as examples of immersive gaming environments
    • e-education Roadmap. Beyond expanding the virtual speaker network, NASA is attempting to tie together all its various electronic educational assets into a comprehensive package.
  • Roadmap is available online ---   http://learners.gsfc.nasa.gov/NLT/road.html
  • 3D immersive and synthetic environments and gaming environments are a key component of the NASA e-education strategy.  Goal is interoperability via computers, cell phones, ipods, blackberries.
  • NASA is building the foundations now to let students and citizens share the planning and experience of visiting the moon.    Advanced networking will be the enabling technology, delivering the necessary bandwidth and QoS to deliver these experiences.
  • NASA CoLab - http://colab.arc.nasa.gov/
    • CDC meeting in SecondLife
  • Immersive Synthetic Environment
    • World of Warcraft: 7 million players
    • Second Life:  5 million players
    • 20-30 million Americans currently participate in immersive synthetic environments
    • American military has 5 million registered users
  • US Game Statsistics
    • 50 million gamers under 19
    • 65 million women play games
    • 150 million Americans play games
  • Virtually all college and university students have game playing experience.  
  • NASA Satellites
  • Animations
    • Carbon cycle animation cool
  • Interviews with Scientists
  • Very cool professional development activities (live) professional enrichment sessions between teachers and the scientists. Example:  Hurricane session done over Internet2 with the Franklin Institute with Professor Jeff Halverson - works synchronously and asynchronously. 
    •  A series of videos came out of this  (UMBC/Franklin Institute/Internet2 Professional Development - 35 segments - links to national standards
    • http://www.giss.nasa.gov/
    • Planning to do HD television over I2 - project with the Franklin Institute (end of June is their timeline

US Department of Education Update (Timothy Magner, Director Educational Technology Office) [download or watch]

  • * *No PPT presentation - see website: http://www.school2-0.org/
  • School 2.0 - http://school2-0.org/;
  •  School Principal has a critical role to play 
  • Really focused on bandwidth planning - being able to predict what bandwidth  needs schools will have, methodologies, tools to determine what their needs are - how does that vary for schools with varying topologies.
  • First, start with what we want the technology to do for us, and then define what specific applications and bandwidth are needed to enable the tools.
  • What are the planning tools and methodologies for determining needs and provision the necessary technology and support?   Bandwidth bottlenecks are the biggest obstacles at the moment.
  • Statenets group is a critical partner with DoE of this effort.
  • Jennifer Oxenford roposed a national virtual town hall to help people visualize what is possible - communities and educators and technologists getting together to discuss what can be done with networked technology in education.
  • An Important issue in this discussion is directional information flow - for example, a K-12 student taking an online course at a college.  How do you transfer that student's data between k12 and higher education?
  • What are the implications and expectation for k12 when an advanced network enabled environment is ubiquitous across the K-20 platform. 

  • TO DO:

  • Louis will follow up with Tim on a similar effort called Smart Tools Academy in WA state.
  • Jennifer will follow up with Tim on the development of a "Virtual Town Hall" VC event

Marketing & Communications Strategy (Andrea Deau)

  • PPT Presentation
  • WI SEGP community outreach case study
  • Formed the WiscNet Internet2 K20 Workgroup to discuss the concept of I2 in education, explore and learn about advanced applications and enable opportunities to collaborate using I2 and advanced networks in education.
  • Similar to the national initiative but brought down to a regional level.
  • Over 100 workgroup participants - 10-30 participate in any given meeting.  K-12 schools, disrict reps, universities, etc.
  • Holding an I2 day event on 12/3/07 in Madison, WI.
  • Holding webcast  meetings with a particpular main topic each meetng.  Webcasts are archived.

  • TO DO

  • URL for WI SEGP group?

Case Study: The US Holocaust Memorial Museum (David Klevan, Education Manager Division of Outreach Technology, USHMM) [view the video]

  •  PPT Presentation
  •  David manages educational programs that use technology at USHMM
  •  Museum is a member of Internet2
  • Genocide Prevention - http://www.ushmm.org/conscience/
  •  Interactive Television
  •  Virtual Worlds & "Fat Apps"
  •  Multimedia & "Fat Apps" (Google Earth) - global awareness area "Crisis in Dafur" content.  Also adding more layers related to the Holocaust. (download that from website
  • Multimedia content - click on google earth and get more detailed info
  • Pushing content, big audiences and interactivity
    •  RSS newsfeeds
    • Podcasts
  • Thinking small?  Is it better to think small vs thinking big? - working with small groups of teachers on collaborative lessons

    TO DO: 

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International Partnerships (Nezar Nabil Sami, Computer Dept. Manager, Egyptian National STI Network) [view the video]

  • About MPL - http://www.mpl.org.eg/english/home.htm
  • Opened in 1995
  • Includes Egyptology Hall, maps hall, adult reading halls, green corner, languages labs - teach English, Arabic, and other languages
  • There is keen interest in the Egyptian educational community to leverage their Internet2 peering connectivity to connect institutions like MPL with K-20 educational institutions in the US and around the world.
  • Nezer envisions a virtual community between Egypt and K20 partners.  Empowering people through a comprehensive eleanring environment.  Including public schools (elementary, prep, high schools, vocational and technical schools). 
  •  K20-Reading for all Initiative - collaboration, competitions, reading marathons.  Encourage all levels to read.  Many opportunities for informal VC connections between classrooms. 
  • Wonderful opportunities for cross cultural exchange.

  • TO DO: 

  • A next step could be to follow up with Nezar to identify a list of schools and cutural institutions that have I2 peering connectivity.

K20 SEGP Governance Survey results (James Werle, All) [view the video]

  • no PPT*, see complete survey results
  • 31 out of 38 SEGP states responded.
  • Answers the following questios -  Who pays SEGP fees in each state?  Is there a content effort associated with the SEGP?  Is there a SEGP website?  How is the SEGP staffed? 

Project Update:  Southern Skies in the Classroom (Tim Sizemore) [view video]

  • PPT Presentation
  • Creating open source web interface to telescopes in AU and KY. 
  • Available to K-20 classrooms!

  • TO DO:

  • Email Tim Sizemore for more info on the project.

Research Channel - Big Video Opportunities for K20  (Tim Lorang - National Production Manager,  Research Channel; Amy Philipson - Executive Director, Research Channel) [view the video]

  • ppt Presentation
  • Wall Street Journal article on RC from April 17, 2007 http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/apps/dailyclips/scraped/WSJ_2007-04-18.html 
  • Started out by exploiting a little used cable TV station broadcasting to the Seattle metro area.  ResearchChannel launched in 2000 broadcasting cable tv and streaming at 56kbps. 
  • Reaching 25 million homes via UW television and dish network.
  • Now experimenting with Internet HD TV - doing uncompressed HD at 1.5mbps. 
  • An open source asset management system called Digital Well is used to store and serve content.  3500 programs are currently available at various bitrates. 
  • A new product will allow people to collaborate around and publish content.
  • Looking for ways to make RC more appealing to the broader K-20 audience.  Align resources to learning standards.

  • TO DO:

  • James will meet with Tim Lorang to discuss how the new R1 resource could be integrated into the new K20 website.

Broadband and Schools:  Influencing National Policy   (Keith Krueger, CEO, Consortium for School Networking) [view the video]

  • no ppt presentation
  • Applications - need the killer app - the current set of applications are not it.
  • Compelling apps include gaming programs that allows you to put real data into a visualization tool in an interactive environment.  Middleware holds great promise for K-12 but is years out.
  • Right now there are a lot of applications available but not at production level.  The number of classrooms that can take advantage of them is still small but growing. 

  • TO DO:

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I2 K20 Connectivity Survey -  (Dan Updegrove, All) [download or watch]

  • PPT Presentation
  • Input connectivity side - we have decent data on who is connected. We are measuring inputs and not outputs.
  • How much Internet2 backbone traffic is taken up by SEGP?  Are we getting our benefits equivalent to the costs?
  • A several day study measuring the traffic at an ISD in Texas last year found about 50% of the SEGP traffic was to and from MSFT.
  • Need to look at benefits, costs, trends:
    • Modest SEPG traffic on backbone
    • Much SEGP traffic stays within state
    • SEGP generates 1.8M; reasonable?
    • Comparative costs: 12, commodity, NLR
  • We are currently unable to reasonably say how the traffic patterns will change once a school is on Internet2.
  • Data suggests the SEGP fees might not be fairly allocated

  • TO DO:

  • Identifying & measuring SEGP "outputs"
  • Lower latency is cited as a key I2 benefit - how are we measuring this?
  • Can we develop a better integrated benefit-cost model for advanced R&E networks?
  •  Are there other state/regional networks, universities, SEGP sites willing to join a collaborative measurement effort?

Common Interests:  StateNets and the Internet2 K20 Initiative George Laskaris - Executive Director, NJEDge; John T. Killebrew - Director, NCREN) [view the video]

  • no PPT
  • Computer networks at the state level have provided services and leadership for public sector organizations for several decades. Some state network organizations pre-date the Internet, and were integral contributors to the creation and development of the Internet. Today these networks continue to focus on serving the non-profit/public constituencies, including higher education, K-12 schools, libraries, and state and municipal governments.
  • The StateNets Working Group is part of EDUCAUSE and provides a forum for managers and executives in state education and research networks and their higher education partners to learn from each other how to better serve their customers and to deal more effectively with their policy and technical challenges.
  • Suggestions for how to align, connect the activities of StateNets and the K20 Initiative:
    •  formal alignment - more people serving in both initiatives
    • programmatic efforts - middleware and integrating content resources at the state leve
    • Middleware - align StateNets efforts with the emerging K20 Initiative Middleware working group.

  • TO DO:

  • Statenet is looking for collaborators around making locally available on-demand streaming video.
  • StateNets is interested in the K20 Middleware Working Group.  Louis will follow up with George
  • A potential next step could be to articulate a national non-videoconferencing project to highlight the additional capacity of the network.
  • In addition, StateNets and K20 will explore a more formal alliance,  perhaps through the participation of each groups leaders in the 
    others organization.

I2-NLR Merger Update (Laurie Burns, Internet2) [view the video]

  • no ppt
  • Merger discussions are moving forward
  • Governance - A new board will be convened to oversee the merged organization.   Existing councils will remain unchanged.  There will be a ballet presented to the membership for electing council members rather than appoint participants.   The liason for I2 member will cast the vote. 
  • The merger is an opportunity for more inclusion of the broader K20 community in the merged organization.
  • Role of SEGPs in the new merged organization?** There is consensus within the Internet2 community on the value of SEGP/K20 Initiative as  network of innovators.   Questions about the real value of the SEGP arrangement given the use of the region and state networks.  This is an issue that will come to the fore after the merger.  Important to keep the I2 organization aware of the importance of the T&L/K20 Initiatives.

    TO DO:

K20 Middleware Working Group (Randy Stout) [view the video]

  • no PPT
  • The working group wiki has been set up. https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/K20MW/K20+Middleware+Working+Group
  • The first meeting was held in March to discuss how to rapidly scale up the use of shibboleth  and other middleware applications in K-12 in particular.  
  • Additional work will be to define the scope of the group participation, mission and goals, and determine what are the best next steps for develop a list or an inventory of applications that have a need for middleware. 
  • Phone meetings will be scheduled quarterly.
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