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K20 Advisory Committee Meeting
Internet2 Spring Member Meeting
April 24, 2006

Note: We are experimenting with the wiki concept.   Below is the first draft of the meeting notes.  Please feel free to add or edit the content of the notes.  To edit, simply click on "page operations" in the upper left hand corner of the page, then click on "edit".  Your edits will be marked as anonymous unless you sign up for a K20 wiki profile which takes <1 minute.  Clicking the "sign up" link in the upper right corner of the screen. 

Attendees

Bret Apthorpe, NY
Ruth Blankenbaker, IN
Heather Bruning, Internet2
Bob Collie, TN
Andrea Deau, WI
Louis Fox, WA
Larry Gallery, NY
Dan Gross, WI
Doug Heacock, KS
Dale Hilton, OH
Pam Holley-Wilcox, NE
Rauf Khalid, IN
Bryan Kriewald, ND
Robert Lahr, PA
David Lois, WI
Myron Lowe, MN
Elizabeth Metz, Mote Marine Laboratory
Connie Michener, WA
Charlie McMickle, NJ
Will Monroe, LA
Jim Moran, Merit
Robert Musgrove, MN
Christianne Orto, NY
Joe Pangborn, RI
Miko Pattie, KY
Dave Pokorney, FL
Sheri Prupis, NJ
Richard Rose, MD
Dave Reese, CA
Susan Scott, IN
Pankaj Shah, OH
Elaine Shuck, Polycom, Inc.
Tim Sizemore, KY
Don Spicer, MD
Len Steinbach, OH
Randy Stout, KS
Rob Symberlist, United Kingdom
James Werle, WA
Wayne Wermagner, ND
Carol Willis, TX
Tonya Witherspoon, KS
Bob Wolffe, IL
Jan Zanetis, Tanberg
Ann Zimmerman, OH

Discussion

Leveraging I2 K20 demos

  • Given the critical mass of Internet2 workshops, presentations, and events, how can we best leverage the resources people are creating? 
  • Make sure everyone is on the K20 listserv and provide notification when something new is added to the resource section of the K20 website.
  • The current resources are very helpful. 
  • Live demonstration is an effective technique for the illustrating Internet2's potential in a variety of educational settings. 
  • The group would benefit from a list of live demo contacts in the resources database with links to demo samples.
  • The quality of the video clips is generally very poor. Is there a way to improve the demo clip quality?  Possibly encoding several versions?
  • Vendors may be able to provide demo content.
  • Establish a list of sites willing to open up a location for testing. 
  • ACTION ITEMS:  AC members will ask local organizations if they are willing to do live demonstrations nationally.
    Charles McMickle from NJ has a test site and is willing to share it with the group.  He will send us the testing URL info.

Engaging Museums

  • Len Steinbach and Dale Hilton from the Cleveland Museum of Art (CMA) were on hand to provide a few examples of what the museum community can offer and provided insight into how the K20 Initiative can help present these opportunities to the various constituent groups within the Initiative.
  • CMA has the largest outreach education program in the country. The museum community engages with K12 to help them infuse an arts perspective into a variety of teaching disciplines.    For example, several years ago CMA brought Bob Ballard from the deck of research vessel exploring the Titanic wreckage into the museum auditorium via videoconference.   Besides talking about the tragic accident and exploring the wreckage live, CMA brought in experts to provide historical perspective of the period.
  • The K20 Initiative and the museum community must work together to identify advanced applications that offer educational opportunities that otherwise wouldn't be available happen - Virtual reality, remote instrumentation, telepresence are all hold tremendous potential. 
  • The majority of schools can't afford the enabling technology required to take advantage of many Interent2-enabled applications.  Giving the equipment away is counterproductive as it instills the expectation that they will always get the equipment for free.  The key is to create a balance of vendor assistance and self-help.
  • K20 and museums need an ongoing demonstration projects which will the drive forward demand for Internet2 enabled museum/K20 projects.
  • ACTION ITEM:  AC members will talk with their professional educators from K-12 to higher education to define real needs in the classroom.  Send to James and Louis and we will share with Dale and Len.

Teaching and Learning Update

  • The group has been active in a number of areas:
  • Establishing a new Teaching and Learning wiki to facilitate collaboration between groups.
  • Creating an online course to acclimate higher education educators about what is possible with Internet2.

State Strategies for Promoting K20 Opportunities

  • Participants were randomly arranged into four groups to discuss strategies for promoting K20 projects.  A representative from each participating state provided answers to each of the following questions:
  • What is the your SEGP philosophy and mission?
  • Does your SEGP have a staff to promote SEGP activity?
  • What is your SEGP's communication approach (marketing and communications, events, presentations, other activities)?
  • Do you charge?  If so, what?

Below are links to each SEGP state's response.  Representatives from each state are encouraged to add/edit the content.  To edit, simply click on "page operations" in the upper left hand corner of the page, then click on "edit".  Your edits will be marked as anonymous unless you sign up for a K20 wiki profile which takes <1 minute.  Clicking the "sign up" link in the upper right corner of the screen 

(note: Andrea Deau will add notes from the states in her group soon) 

Alaska - add/edit

Alabama - add/edit

California - add/edit

Connecticut - add/edit

Georgia - add/edit

Hawaii - add/edit

Illinois - add/edit

Indiana - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    IHETS - Higher Ed
    Most schools do not know they have I2 access.
    Very Political Environment (structure and future is being decided as we speak)
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Annual events.
  • How do you charge?
    Schools pay no fees
    K-12 goes through to ENA

Iowa - add/edit

Kansas - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    K12 has a separate network from the higher education network.  With special one-time funding, these networks will merge. 
  • Staffing
    Have 9 people who manage office, coordinate outsourcing of developing content and managing grants.
  • Marketing - Promotion
    In process of developing a program newsletter with a calendar. 
  • How do you charge?
    State supported higher ed, K12, libraries and hospitals.  Funding pays for "first mile."  Has advisory group made up of one person from KANET Board of Regents, one from state education agency, Library Association and Hospital Association.

Kentucky - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    State Agency. In order to achieve, No Child Left Offline, instructors must integrate took kit into instruction. All children will be connected to the commodity Internet or Internet2. Two state networks: one for post-secondary and one for K-12.  Two phase Internet2 Initiative: 1) Connectivity; and 2) Content.
  • Staffing
    No dedicated staff
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Live event with Mote Marine (promote gov't awareness); bringing live videoconferencing events to schools (if budget is approved) across the state; promoting I2 Applications. On the verge of having a state-wide course management system (Blackboard).
  • How do you charge?
    Kentucky Education Network to receive state funding. All in-kind donations.

Louisiana - add/edit

Maine - add/edit

Massachusetts - add/edit

Maryland - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    Collaboration between State Network (networkMaryland), Public Library Network (SAILOR), Public Higher Education (UMATS). UMATS is the State Sponsored Education Group Partner and gets I2 service through the Mid Atlantic Crossroads (MAX).  Goal is to eliminate carrier cost through fiber partnerships and microwave.
    All partners receive ISP service through bartering with UMATS, or using the UMATS contracts independently. Current ISP: QWEST, Level 3, Cogent.
    All new services replaced must be the same or equal in price, service must be equal to or more.
  • Marketing - Promotion
    UMATS provides annual retreat and invites outside State segments for a full day of presentations and information
    UMATS sponsors Internet 2 days
    UMATS/State sponsors State of Maryland Network Summit
    SAILOR Governance Board quarterly meetings
    networkMaryland Advisory Board public meetings
  • How do you charge?
    State: loop is based on the size of the connection, ISP cost based on the size of the loop, and a fee for core infrastructure and overhead costs.
    UMATS: Pricing through  an allocation table for inside the University System of Maryland customers and a separate allocation table for outside the USM (community colleges, private colleges, K-12, libraries, museums, etc). SEGP is paid by UMATS and is included as part of the allocation. Cost allocation table is moderately priced for outside institutions, 1/3rd more than internal members.
    SAILOR: State funded. SAILOR and Maryland Department of Education are the ERATE interfaces for the State.

Michigan - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    Collaboration - Collaboration - Collaboration. Promote and eliminate leased line services. To purchase, partner, and promote the use of fiber for core and loop interfaces throughout the state. MERIT is building own fiber core network.
    12 State Universities connected.
  • Staffing
    Staff of 53 
  • Marketing - Promotion
    3 Technical MERIT meetings Staff
    1 Annual (General Overview of Services)
  • How do you charge?
    Each institution requests its bandwidth and pays a year in advance formula.
    60% of K-12 Connected
    70% of Higher Ed Revenue
    K-12 is a cost recovery model, and also based on their amount of bandwidth requested.

Minnesota - add/edit

SEGP philosophy and mission
To promote Internet2 applications and collaborations to K20 schools to
provide engaging student learning
activities.

SEGP Staff
Myron Lowe, University of Minnesota, .05FTE
Marla Davenport, TIES, .05FTE
Kathy Kraemer, TIES, .175 FTE

SEGP Communication approach
TIES provides an Internet2 listserv with I2 and IP videoconferencing
opportunities. We have a state-wide regional telecommunications committee
that meets
monthly to help promote I2 happenings. We do approximately 10-15
presentations a year for interested groups within
our state and throughout the country to promote Internet2.

Charging approach
TIES has paid the $30,000 SEGP fee for the K-12 schools for the last four
years.  Grants paid for two of the years and Service Cooperatives help pay
one year.  The future of the payment is under discussion with the Minnesota
Department of Education.

Missouri - add/edit

Nebraska - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    University will be a contractor to the state to continue to deploy. Boot-strapping - - have to figure out a way for people to pay for this as it goes.
  • Staffing
    Establishing an organizational structure. University has been the technical resource.
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Promotion has been limited because funding has been non-existent. Ongoing funding should positively change perception.
  • How do you charge?
    Just received state funding; until now, all funding has been donation. Funding does not pay for connectivity. Distance Learning component. 

New Mexico - add/edit

New Jersey - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    Has state network for higher education.  Several districts receive their I1 and I2 from the higher education network if they want more I2 bandwidth for applications other than IVC.  State network provides gateway to K-12 IVC network provided by Verizon.  There is a project to re-address schools on Verizon network using ViDe's global dialing scheme.  Partner with gigapop MAGPI.
  • Staffing
    K20 Initiative volunteers form collaborative groups on initiatives such as elearning, video, etc.  Also work closely with MAGPI on content projects
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Informal committees.  Currently are working on new project "Washington's Footsteps" modeled after Lewis and Clark.  Participated in Hip Hop poetry project.
  • How do you charge?
    cost recovery.  Is a complicated formula.

New York - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    NYSERNet is 501(c)3. Board of Directors is made up of members. Board dictates what high speed applications they would like and NYSERNet figures out how to make it happen. "Real Time Access to Real Learning" - Internet2 is a means toward that end. NYSERNet is an education research network.
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Remote Science Instrumentation (accessing scientific data at the Finger Lakes); Controlling Mars Rover (simulated robot with camera uses an Internet2 interface); Robust videoconferencing network; Working to build stronger International classroom connections. Very active with K-12 and National communities.
  • Staffing 
    One FTE dedicated for K12 outreach.
  • How do you charge?
    Membership Organization; General/Administrative/Network expenses divided among members. Everyone pays the same price per megabit. Volume-oriented buyers club. More megabits = more savings. $150/megabit; recommend at least a 15 meg connection. Membership fees are waived for K-12; All higher eds pay membership on top of connectivity fee.

North Carolina - add/edit

North Dakota - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    State-wide network (gov't, education, libraries). Two state universities are Internet2 members. They sponsor all K12s.
  • Staffing
    Dedicated Staff in each state territory; Specialty groups (network; curriculum; administrative)
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Digital Video Content; Promote national events; Lots of in-state programs over state-wide video network (foreign languages, read across North Dakota); Virtual field trips; pushing virtual reality; looking for partners
  • How do you charge?
    64% is paid by e-rate; Schools can add additional bandwidth, but have to cover costs; Do not need to cover Internet2 promotion - just need to promote them.

Ohio - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    OARnet: consortium of higher-ed institutions; State-wide network;
  • Staffing
    Dedicated staff.
  • Marketing - Promotion
    no answer given 
  • How do you charge?
    State contributes funding; Members pay membership fees. All higher eds pay membership on top of connectivity feed

Oklahoma - add/edit

  • What is the your SEGP philosophy and mission?
    • To provide ubiquitous access to Internet2 resources to all educational entities connected to the statewide network.
  • Does your SEGP have a staff to promote SEGP activity?
    • No dedicated staff, but have used ad-hoc resources to generate interest and utilization at the institutional level.
  • What is your SEGP's communication approach (marketing and communications, events, presentations, other activities)?
    • Primarily presentations and listserv activities promoting events and resources.
  • Do you charge?  If so, what?
    • No charge to SEGP members.  State network pays costs associated with this membership class

Oregon - add/edit

Pennsylvania - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    MAGPI is a  university-sponsored organization that serves tri-state area; motto is high performance networking is a lot of plumbing unless something meaningful is happening over it.
  • Staffing
    2 FTE 
  • Marketing - Promotion
    MAGPI sponsors monthly virtual forums for K20 regional community; weekly outreach events/projects/demonstrations; develop programming with members; content brokering
  • How do you charge?
    MAGPI operates on an aggregation point model; subscription fee pays for application development and connectivity

Rhode Island - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    Collaboration
    Two networks: OSHEAN - Higher Education
    RINet K-12 (37 school districts)
    Virtual Tutoring between K-12 and Higher Education
  • Staffing
    4 FTE
  • Marketing - Promotion
    RINet - 2 annual events
    OSHEAN - 1 annual event
  • How do you charge?
    Members pay a fee formula, based on bandwidth and usage
    Fees pay for staff and services
    Charges semi-annually

South Carolina - add/edit

Texas - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    K12 schools receive internet access from the 20 independent education service centers.  TETN (Texas Education Telecommunication Network) is used by the independent regional networks as a backbone and for video connectivity between the regions.  TETN provides I2 connection for video.  Higher education operates the LEARN network.  LEARN is new and does not yet connect all the higher education institutions in the State.  Discussions about K12 using LEARN are being discussed. 
  • Staffing
    none.  TETN Office serves as a common point of dissemination of I2 information for the K12 community. 
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Education service centers work with each other and have user committees. 
  • How do you charge?

Utah - add/edit

Virginia - add/edit

Washington - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    Collaboration between K-12 and Higher Education.
    Server 486 sectors, doesn't include all public museums, but has some.
    Provides services to correctional facilities
    Transport provided by gigaPOP
    Partnerships between State Government/PN West gigaPoOP, IRU
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Outreach and onsite visits to K-20
    Planning event inviting all seeking services
    Uses legislature to help support the networks
    Believes in grassroots campaign for support and funding
  • How do you charge?
    $26M to support network, includes Bundled ERATE Costs
    ERATE dedicated staff 91)

Wisconsin - add/edit

  • Philosophy
    Collaboration between State Government, K-12, Higher Education
    Transition from ISP to ESP (Education Service)
    426 School Districts (52% on their own)
    I2 is considered part of the bundled package
    Transport handled by the State,
    4 POPs strategically located in State
    Telecom required to provide 1gb/s interface to any institution that request the service
    85% K-12 Connected
    Libraries connected
    K-20 staff wearing many hats (20)
  • Marketing - Promotion
    Future Tech Conference
    I2 Days (2)
  • How do you charge?
    $3,850 a year membership fee for I1 and I2 + $1.350 per meg
    Customer may choose 3Mb/s + Video or 5Mb/s with no Video (no charge)
    Loops are postalized
     

Community College Case Study -  Dr. Robert Musgrove, Pine Technical College, MN

  • Dr. Musgrove recommends several approaches for engaging community colleges in the national K20 effort:
    • The first step is to identify a range of innovative individuals with interest in exploring the opportunities offered by Internet2. Part of the role of Advisory Committee members is to help identify such innovators within all K20 constituent groups.
    • Core innovators can also help identify additional innovators. 
    • The many of the educators within the community college sector are not aware their institution is connected to Internet2.  It would be beneficial to identify and present at the key conferences in this community.
  • Myron and Robert were brought together during a period of severe budget crisis within Minnesota. Internet2 and other technology solutions were seen as an effective lever to continue offering resources and services that would otherwise need to be cut.
  • Please see Dr. Musgrove's PowerPoint presentation for more information on his work at Pine Technical College.[
    http://k20.internet2.edu/files/ppt/RobertMusgrove.ppt]

Tim Magner - Department of Education

  • An effective technology infrastructure needs to be in place before you can move into large scale adoption of Internet2-enabled teaching and learning opportunities.
  • The Department of Education's goal is to help frame the conversation about how to best invest in the next generation infrastructure and programs within the K12 community.  It is critical for K12 institutions at all levels to reach out beyond K12 community to learn about effective infrastructure development strategies.
  • For example, there are opportunities for K12 to learn from the higher education community in the field of  e-science innovation.
  • Successful adoption by K12 innovator community will create a positive feedback loop that will drive demand and justification for additional bandwidth.
  • Internet2 K20 can help in documenting the evidence of activities with developing and deploying next generation infrastructure and how it can translate into teaching and learning opportunities.
  • Many schools do not understand the necessity of being connected to an advanced education network.  The Department of Education (DOE) can help by reinforce this message.  DOE can serve an important role by providing the map of the technology infrastructure options that exists so schools can make the right decisions.
  • It would be helpful to create a bandwidth chart showing the applications and the corresponding teaching techniques that can be deployed at various bandwidth levels
  • Ideally, it would be possible to show how sustained levels of adequate bandwidth in the hands of effective teachers can improve student achievement.

Robert Symberlist - UKERNA

  • A new comprehensive state education network covering the whole of the UK is being developed connecting 30,000 schools.
  • Libraries and museums in the UK are not well connected at the moment.
  • Please see Robert Symberlist's PPT presentation for additional information.[
    http://k20.internet2.edu/files/ppt/RobSymberlist.ppt]

Jim Whitlock and Dr. Bade Sartawi  - Palestinian Internet2 Association

  • Jim Whitlock and Dr. Bade Sartawi have been working to establish advanced networking videoconferencing services to the Palestinian academic and medical community.
  • The Palestinian government has approved the construction of an advanced network throughout the country. 
  • They are looking for K-20 schools to connect with schools in the Palestinian Territories via videoconferencing.    Please get in touch with them via email if you would like learn more about the variety of collaboration opportunities that exist.

Dr. Badie Sartawi,
President of the new Palestinian Internet2 Association (http://www.padi2.ps)
Director of the WEF funded K-12 Palestinian
Education Initiative
http://www.pei.ps/eng/index.html
sartawi@alquds.edu

Jim O'Connor Whitlock
Director of Computing Services at the University at Buffalo[
http://www.BethlehemAlliance.org]
whitlock@buffalo.edu
www.BethlehemAlliance.org

Vendor Relations

  • What should be the national K20 Initiative's relationship with vendors?
  • If we were to engage the vendors, should we shape the conversation by including the groups we represent or additionally include higher education community? How do we strike the balance?
  • Our group needs to identify the mutual self-interests - making the technology more affordable, more available, and more stable.  These will generally match with the vendors interests.
  • The vendors should understand that investing in this community at a loss is an ultimate win.
  • We may be able to provide vendors with a test bed.  However, not all practitioners will be willing to test unstable technology.
  • The Quilt may be an interesting partner as they have experience working with vendors and are seen as a "buying club". 
  • UKERNA has regular meetings with major manufacturers and vendors to articulate the needs of schools.  These are technical and non-technical needs.
  • ACTION ITEM:  The following team has been created to articulate an approach to vendor relations.  Please let Louis know if you would like to join this team.
    Tim Sizemore
    Christianne Orto - Team Leader
    Richard Rose -
    Pankaj Shah -
    Ann Zimmerman
    Bob Dixon

NLR - I2 Merger Talks

  • There is not a great deal of concrete information to report at the moment.  New information may be released at the conference..  Initially Louis had invited Internet2 and NLR representatives to provide an update to this group but the merger talks were halted before the member meeting began.
  • There is strong support for a K20 effort within both NLR and Internet2.
  • Non-AC member K20 Attendance
  • The rising conference registration costs has prevented a large number of K12 and other K20 constituent groups from attending the Member Meetings. 
  • The group concurred that this is a problem in many other states.  There is interest in presenting a plan to I2 for a discounted registration rate for SEGP constituents. 
  • Internet2 recommends identifying the leaders in the K20 community.  It isn't necessarily a venue for providing exposure to the activities of this group to all practitioners.
  • A couple possible solutions:  Internet2 could make provisions for one of the two yearly meetings or allow 1 SEGP participant per state per meeting to attend at a lower registration rate.
  • ACTION ITEM:  Jennifer Oxenford, Larry Gallery, Susan Scott, and Miko Pattie will work with the Internet2 membership (Marianne Smith) to understand their concerns.  This group will then draft a proposal and present it to the Advisory Committee before submitting it to Internet2.
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