TAC Meeting July 19, 2018


Pre-Read Materials

  1. Review/approve minutes of TAC Meeting 2018-06-21

  2. Attributes for Collaboration WG charter (https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/ipiTBg)

  3. Attributes for Collaboration WG recommendations (https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/uwqMBw)

  4. FIM4R v2 Paper

  5. Thread on work items

  6. Review Trust & Identity Project Portfolio

Minutes

Attending: Kim Milford, Matt Brookover, Keith Wessel, Eric Kool-Brown, Mark Scheible, Tom Demeranville, Judith Bush, Janemarie Duh, Mike Grady, Eric Goodman, Albert Wu

With: Tom Barton, Brad Christ, Ian Young, Dean Woodbeck, David Walker, Shannon Roddy, Nick Roy, Dave Shafer, Ann West, Steve Zoppi, Mike LaHaye

Action Items

  • (AI) Need an agenda item for a future TAC meeting to discuss subject-matter areas and representation needed for new/incoming TAC members.


Trust and Identity Update

  • Interviewing for two open positions


  • Several working groups wrapping up 


  • Trust and Identity staff meeting in Ann Arbor Aug 14-15.


  • Internet2 is transitioning to a new wiki platform Aug 6


  • Baseline Expectations rollout and adoption encouragement continues. Have contracted with David Walker and Renee Shuey to contact participants that don’t adhere to BE and find out why. Goal: develop strategy and work toward a transition plan


  • Getting some feedback from service providers about logos and the need for those


  • Campus Success Program in its final quarter. They will have a significant amount of time at TechEx for them to report/present on their experiences


Ops Update

  • Getting close to a test environment for MDQ. Working with Ian Young to integrate Amazon hardware security module. Response times are an order of magnitude faster than the working group’s requirements.

  • FM incident - June 27-28 - outage and some data loss and recovered the next day. An internal report is complete and working on a public report to share in the next week or two.


  • Shannon looking at security issues with IdPs. Discussing how to structure a look at the top security issues.


  • FM release on Monday - mainly RA-facing - in preparation for automated metadata approval


Working Groups

  • Deployment Profile - Keith Wessel - In final phase of reviewing/incorporating the community feedback. Projection - schedule some community calls in the next few weeks to be transparent with the community feedback and WG responses. After that, ready to move to the final report and ratification. This is a Kantara document, so it will need to go back to them.


  • OIDC Deployment - Eric Kool-Brown - Met on Tuesday. Eric Goodman discussed what the UC group is doing. Also talked with people from Columbia on the work they are doing in OpenID Connect. The WG is going to dive into what flows look like.

  • Streamlining SP Onboarding - Janemarie Duh - The WG is about to wrap up. Likely have one more call, then will present a summary of the report and work. They will do a presentation during the next TAC call. 


TAC Membership Next Steps

  • Nominations page for 2-19: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/inctac/TAC+Nominations+for+2019

  • Will ask members with expiring terms whether they want to be nominated for another term.


  • (AI) Need an agenda item for a future TAC meeting to discuss subject-matter areas and representation needed.


  • The nominations document has a table to list nominees - please feel free to add people to that list.


Attributes for Collaboration and Federation

Slides for Brad’s presentation

  • Charge: Determine why large numbers of InC participants do not support R&S.


  • Outreach 


    • Survey - 130 respondents (both participants and non-participants) representing all types of institutions 


    • 57% either extremely or very familiar with R&S


    • About ⅓ said they probably or definitely won’t support R&S (issues: lack of awareness, other priorities, not understanding the value)


  • Interviews - 7 in-depth one-on-one conversations with institutions that are not supporting R&S


  • Conducted sessions at TechEx and Global Summit


  • Recommendations


    • Require R&S as part of Baseline Expectations


    • InCommon should build a bigger tent


    • Add researchers to Internet2 and InCommon governance bodies


    • Engage grant-funding agencies


    • Consider operating an InCommon IdP as a service - particularly for smaller schools and community colleges - often a technical deficit


    • Improve support for Service Providers (they create the value - the “killer apps”) - better documentation, for example


    • Improve R&S documentation for both IdPs and SPs - streamlining - how to get started


    • Rethink R&S outreach - rebrand so that it doesn’t seem like this is all about research institutions


    • Remove the legacy InCommon-only R&S category


  • Brad will also present to InCommon Steering on August 6.


Work Items for the Rest of 2018

  • Support and participate in the REFEDS Federation 2.0 working group


    • Judith Bush volunteered as a co-chair


  • Identify requirements for InCommon operating an IdP as a Service


    • What are the community requirements for such a service?


    • May need to attract people from institutions that don’t normally participate in WGs.


    • Possibly a WG co-sponsored by TAC and CACTI


      • Mark will contact Chris Phillips about this

    • Looking for a TAC sponsor - looking for interested TAC member(s) to (help) write Charter

  • Recommendations for InCommon’s role in support of FIM4R


    • The IdP as a Service might meet some of the recommendations in the FIM4R report


    • FIM4R report - 18-month effort among international research communities and how they rely on federation.


    • Developed a series of recommendations


    • Will be looking to TAC and CACTI to help sort out and socialize the recommendations


Next Meeting - August 2, 2018 - 1 pm ET

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