Trust and Identity Program Advisory Group Meeting - July 13, 2020

Minutes

Attending: Mark Johnson, Brad Christ, Klaas Wierenga, Ted Hanss, Tom Jordan, Laura Paglione, Kevin Morooney, Steve Zoppi, Dean Woodbeck, Ann West

OpenRoaming and eduroam

  • Kevin reviewed that we’ve created an eduroam Advisory Committee and they’ve started to look at OpenRoaming
  • Comes out of a desire for guest access for enterprises
  • Cisco has built an eduroam-like service for enterprises
  • SSID issue - won’t get enterprises to drop their own SSID or add an OpenRoaming SSID.
  • PassPoint also exists, providing a richer communication path between the owner of the hot spot and the user
  • GEANT started talking with OpenRoaming people about two years ago.
  • About six months ago, decided to make OpenRoaming as open as you get in the wireless broadband alliance (not a standards body but an industry body). Most suppliers are there.
  • Problem with eduroam - limited footprint. With 5G and free roaming in Europe, have to compete with an infrastructure that is present everywhere - it costs, but it is everywhere.
  • There are some advantages to eduroam - being on campus networks. 

Issues

  • The model is set up for commercial wifi providers - a lot of attention to billing/payment, captive portals intended to monetize information
  • Can make sure the eduroam users aren’t affected by these things, but could be guilt by association
  • End user wouldn’t have the eduroam experience any longer - wouldn’t see the eduroam SSID any longer

Is there a risk that we either get onboard with OpenRoaming or get left behind? Cellular service is incredibly competitive in Europe, which is resulting in a race to the bottom. Also there much less eduroam use on phones than on laptops - so a risk to lose market share.

Are there dates we need to be aware of, in terms of decisions? Klaas - doing a trial with the city of Amsterdam to enable wireless in all of the public buildings (including university buildings) in the city.

Community engagement given TechEx cancellation

  • InC Steering met last Monday and had a conversation about aspects of convening communities
  • I2 is still determining its approach as a result of cancelling in-person TechEx
  • T/I is organizing content in parallel to what I2 may do.
  • ACAMP is key to what we want to do
  • TNC was cancelled, which includes many of the ACAMP-type activities
  • Concerned that going another year without F2F will damage momentum
  • Incurring a lot of social debt
  • Pretty closely knit community, should be ok, but people new to the field and community will struggle because they aren’t meeting people in person

Next Meeting

Monday, August 10, 2020 - 4 pm ET / 3 pm CT / 2 pm MT / 1 pm PT

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