InCommon Pilot Call
March 26, 2015

PARTICIPANTS: George Laskaris (NJEDge.net), Shaun Abshere (WiscNet), Mark Scheible & Mark Johnson (MCNC), Bernie A'cs (NCSA), Mark Johnson (MCNC), Jat Pannu & Janet Yarbrough, (Aegis Identity) Guy Jones, Mike & Jordan & Scott (Nebraska), Mike Zawacki (Internet 2), Mark Scheible & Mark Johnson (MCNC) Jack Smith (West Virginia), Jim Pederson, David Walker, Jennifer Griffin (The Quilt), Emily Eisbruch (Internet2)

MEETING NOTES: (Call Recorded)

Policy Reminder

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  1. Roll call, agenda bash


  2. Follow-up on discussion on March 12, 2015 All Pilots call on "Working with Vendors for K12 Federation"

    1. Jim - Vendor relationship and single sign-in vendor engagement
      1. Difficulty is that there can be as many as 30 different applications and becomes a pain point. Needs a stable place to upload information. Single sign-on is a big thing for school districts. They all have so many different ways of doing things and don’t have the time or staff to maintain. These are the people who have been maintaining the conversation.
      2. As soon as you start integrating, the school will tell their next steps.
      3. When the school districts speak, the Vendors listen.
      4. The burden should not be put on the teacher.
      5. Subscription based vendors are saying they have no interest in having to host the data
    2. Vendors in the category of software service providers who are helping to implement the Federated structure and what you end up buying, what your view is. As a collection of school districts, they are a unique operator. Vendors listen to the schools when there are friction points.
    3. There has been a fair amount of press in the past month about how newer services providers are routing around school districts and going directly to the teachers. Does this change the approach
      1. They always try to have teachers lead the innovation
      2. Vendors are curious about data and life cycles
      3. School districts are struggling with “applications for all” One key applications are identified it helps clarify the terms of use.
      4. This emphasized the point that being able to make resources available is important to help the workflow process and established accountability.
      5. The priority of the school districts is to protect the children.
  3. Update on MCNC / InCommon federation partnership business model pilot (MarkS. and MarkJ.)


    1. They started out with trying to develop terms and what documents were needed and what existing documents needed to be changed and updated. Federation practices policy and procedures
    2. Steward Addendum was added
    3. A new participant class for support consortia was added
    4. Pricing model was addressed
      1. Participant fee
      2. Steward role fee – for support consortium
        1. K-12 or colleges under the steward Standard metadata – training
      3. One-time on-boarding fees include:
        1. Training
        2. Standard submission of metadata is done on the site
          1. Beyond that there is a review of the manual process and would be part of the training for the staff
        3. Reoccurring fees based on number of of IdPs a regional plans to have
        4. Potential support calls
        5. Potentially fees for an InCommon Steward Camp – any regionals that participate in that role would have formal training sessions
    5. Steering Committee has giving the initial blessing
      1. Pilot price for MCNC was $19K for the first year
        1. This is a concern because they have no idea how much work this will entail but they needed to move to the first stage.
        2. Comments were very good
        3. Jack Suess also lent his opinion
    6. Next phase is involving Internet2 legal. Mark will be working with John Morabito and the MCNC lawyer.
    7. The technical advisory committee had a discussed recommendations about the Quilt Process
    8. Next implementation steps
      1. No documents have been signed
        1. First step is to get MCNC to the point where they can officially get started.
        2. A few K-12 will need to transfer over so the process will need to be understood.
        3. Agreements between represented constituents need to be signed then InCommon needs to sign on.
  4. Calls will be increased in length of biweekly All Pilots calls from 30 to 60 minutes,
 Advantage:  the time is blocked off to facilitate more discussion and Q&A for calls where a presentation takes place.


  5. Sessions of note at 2015 Global Summit:
    1. "Be a Hero: Enable and Maximize the Value of Identity Federation" Tues, April 28, 8:45am https://meetings.internet2.edu/2015-global-summit/detail/10003660/
      1. On this panel session, Mark Scheible will share info on regional networks representing community college and K-12 needs.
    2. InCommon Quilt Pilot BOF Wed., April 29 at noon ET https://meetings.internet2.edu/2015-global-summit/detail/10003811/

Next All Pilots Call: Thursday, April 9, 2015

END OF CALL

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