InCommon Pilot Call
October 23, 2014
PARTICIPANTS: George Laskaris (NJEDge.net), Frank Seesink of WVNET and Jack A Smith of the WV Higher Education Policy Commission , Mike Danahey (Nebraska), Mark Scheible, Janet Chris Lickty, (WiscNet) Paul Schopis (OARnet), Jennifer Griffin (The Quilt),
MEETING NOTES: (Call Recorded)
Policy Reminder
http://www.internet2.edu/membership/ip.html
- Frank Seesink of WVNET and Jack A Smith of the WV Higher Education Policy Commission will share information on the landscape, opportunities and challenges in West Virginia regarding K12 identity federation.
- WVNT was started in the mid 60 – split off in the mid 70s. Board of regents spilt them off and are “under the board of regents)
- Now connect most of the higher education, K-12, State govt, Tax office , court house.
- The only thing they don’t manage is the state government (but the do provide internet)
- Looking to:
- Join internet2 in 2011
- Concept of federated ID management and InCommon was important so they had to join
- 2 member institutions
- WVU and Marshal universities are the only Internet2 members
- Would like to try and connect the other
- Would like to join InCommon
- Received good information from Colorado and Illinois
- Immediately pursue pilot project with K-12 Community
- Working on collaborative efforts
- Moving from Oracle to MS 365
- Housing every account for every student and faculty
- State let then 2MM and a “poor state”
- Acts as a central point – some of the smaller schools can’t join Internet2 / InCommon. They don’t have the money or the staff. There needs to be flexibility in the Internet2 / InCommon Fabric
- SegP program needs to be better understood – is it bundled?
- Probably yes. R1 institutions are required to have a connection.
- Part of the mechanics are to see what the regional’s role is to scale
- Stewardship model
- Is part of what they are trying to work with the Pilot Program. Working towards the resolution of the business model
- The pilots are in various stage of completions
- Have not established new classes of meta data but there are working in that direction
- Regionals that are working in the program are the test -- they are working to link the state colleges etc.
- MCNC is working though use cases and business model assumptions and have made progress.
- MCNC is getting close to working on the “>>>” sheet. Working on candidate pricing. Going back to the InCommon steering committee and working on the map of what the steps are of becoming a pilot to a user. They are taking apart the trust relationship and breaking it down into t most simple parts. This will help with keeping costs down.
- As of today, a regional can’t join InCommon, so they need to consider non-traditional membership. Regional roles should be able to step up and take responsibility
- There needs to be a support consortium relationship – where they can bring in K-12 and other institutions and take responsibility for them
- Will there need to be multiple models.
- The one that was most appropriate was the full steward
- MCNC proposed figuring out one model and resolve all the details where it can be turned on.
- WVNET Structure
- Central store is beneficial but how do they handle stewardship
- Pre-ADP and office 365 they had WebTop
- This pulled from various sources.
- Who managed that?
- Will is be handles on a school basis or RESA
- Limited staffing
- Active directory serve integration is easy - it’s the liability side.
- Pre-ADP and office 365 they had WebTop
- New CTO in West Virginia. He is working with Judge O’Hanlon
- Central store is beneficial but how do they handle stewardship
- CSU presentation was valuable because there is a lot of commonality as far as keeping students and graduates in state after training.
- Analytics have been interesting but all information must be stripped. They are looking for ways to improve the educational system.
- WVNET needs a scaled down version to start
- They would like to move on to public libraries