InCommon Pilot Call

October 23, 2014

PARTICIPANTS: George Laskaris (NJEDge.net), Frank Seesink of WVNET and Jack A Smith of the WV Higher Education Policy Commission , Mike Danahey (Nebraska), Mark Scheible, Janet Chris Lickty, (WiscNet) Paul Schopis (OARnet), Jennifer Griffin (The Quilt),

MEETING NOTES: (Call Recorded)

Policy Reminder

  http://www.internet2.edu/membership/ip.html

  1. Frank Seesink of WVNET and Jack A Smith of the WV Higher Education Policy Commission will share information on the landscape, opportunities and challenges in West Virginia regarding K12 identity federation. 
    1. WVNT was started in the mid 60 – split off in the mid 70s. Board of regents spilt them off and are “under the board of regents)
    2. Now connect most of the higher education, K-12, State govt, Tax office , court house.
    3. The only thing they don’t manage is the state government (but the do provide internet)
    4. Looking to:
      1.  Join internet2 in 2011
      2. Concept of federated ID management and InCommon was important so they had to join
      3. 2 member institutions
      4. WVU and Marshal universities are the only Internet2 members
      5. Would like to try and connect the other
      6.  Would like to join InCommon
      7. Received good information from Colorado and Illinois
      8. Immediately pursue pilot project with K-12 Community
    5. Working on collaborative efforts
      1. Moving from Oracle to MS 365
      2. Housing every account for every student and faculty
    6. State let then 2MM and a “poor state”
    7. Acts as a central point – some of the smaller schools can’t join Internet2 / InCommon. They don’t have the money or the staff. There needs to be flexibility in the Internet2  / InCommon Fabric
    8. SegP program needs to be better understood – is it bundled?
      1. Probably yes. R1 institutions are required to have a connection.
      2. Part of the mechanics are to see what the regional’s role is to scale
    9. Stewardship model
      1. Is part of what they are trying to work with the Pilot Program. Working towards the resolution of the business model
      2. The pilots are in various stage of completions
      3. Have not established new classes of meta data but there are working in that direction
    10. Regionals that are working in the program are the test  -- they are working to link the state colleges etc.
    11.  MCNC is working though use cases and business model assumptions and have made progress.
    12. MCNC is getting close to working on the “>>>” sheet. Working on candidate pricing. Going back to the InCommon steering committee and working on the map of what the steps are of becoming a pilot to a user. They are taking apart the trust relationship and breaking it down into t most simple parts. This will help with keeping costs down.
    13. As of today, a regional can’t join InCommon, so they need to consider non-traditional membership. Regional roles should be able to step up and take responsibility
    14. There needs to be a support consortium relationship – where they can bring in K-12 and other institutions and take responsibility for them
    15. Will there need to be multiple models.
    16.  The one that was most appropriate was the full steward
    17. MCNC proposed figuring out one model and resolve all the details where it can be turned on.
    18. WVNET Structure
      1. Central store is beneficial but how do they handle stewardship
        1. Pre-ADP and office 365 they had WebTop
          1. This pulled from various sources.
          2. Who managed that?
          3. Will is be handles on a school basis  or RESA
            1. Limited staffing
          4. Active directory serve integration is easy  - it’s the liability side.
      2. New CTO in West Virginia. He is working with Judge O’Hanlon
    19. CSU presentation was valuable because there is a lot of commonality as far as keeping students and graduates in state after training.
      1. Analytics have been interesting but all information must be stripped. They are looking for ways to improve the educational system.
      2. WVNET needs a scaled down version to start
        1. They would like to move on to public libraries
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