Draft Minutes: Grouper Call of Nov. 5, 2014
Tom Barton, U. Chicago, chair
Dave Langenberg, U. Chicago
Shilen Patel, Duke
Gail Dunmire, Penn State
Chris Hyzer, University of Pennsylvania
Pregash Devasagayam, U. Colorado Boulder
Marwan Shaher, U. Colorado Boulder
Bill Thompson, Lafayette
Emily Eisbruch, Internet2, flywheel
New Action Item
AI (Emily) look into providing better, easier to find, documentation on deployment experiences with Grouper and AD, Grouper and Google Groups, etc. perhaps using Confluence tags
Carry Over Action Items
AI (Tom) follow up on Pen testing of Grouper 2.2 OPEN
AI (Shilen) create a Grouper training video on the new Grouper OPEN
[AI) (DaveL) look at PSP ChangeLogDataConnector Inconsistency issue https://lists.internet2.edu/sympa/arc/grouper-users/2014-02/msg00047.html>
Building on the success of the scribing approach used last week (Oct 2014) at Advance CAMP, we will experiment taking notes of today's call using a Google doc in which all chip in.
Grouper v2.2.1 Release
Dave is fixing some library compatibility issues.
Dave doing test builds and then will tag the PSP.
Dave will push Grouper to Maven Central.
It will be helpful if people on this call can do some testing of the Grouper 2.2.1 release
-the provisional code is available to grab and test
Chris is testing on HSQL or MYSQL
Shilen will do some testing
Lafayette College plans to download the latest Grouper release and do some testing. They hope to provide feedback over the next month. Such feedback will likely go into Grouper 2.2.2 release.
Chris will announce the release of Grouper 2.2.1 to the community when all the testing and release steps are completed.
Goal is to release Grouper 2.2.1 on Friday Nov. 7, 2014
Grouper debrief from 2014 Technology Exchange in Indianapolis
Grouper WG session, Oct. 29. 2014
Provisioning NexGen for Grouper 2.3
changelog -> messaging platform (top 2 or 3)
Grouper(DaveL) to build messaging -> LDAP / AD
Chris: we should also have a database approach
Java interface with basic messaging functions
messaging “adapters” can integrate with this interface
LDAP and AD connectors would integrate here rather than changelog
Hope the Grouper Upgrader will help users with ease of moving from one Grouper version to the next.
Grouper Upgrader now works for the PSP also
Might add some validation functions to the Grouper Upgrader in the future
Should we add a GUI wizard in the future? Not sure, maybe the command line interface is OK for the Grouper Installer/Upgrader
AI (Chris) add the movie about the upgrader to the Grouper download page DONE
Lafayette is interested in more clarification on the preferred installation approach for a production install. What is best practice?
Chris: the installer is like a Quickstart.
This wiki page shows how install is done at Penn (with ant scripts) https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Managing+Grouper+in+several+environments
Some organizations have change control procedures that constrain the approach
AI (Chris) Clarify this issue of when to use the Grouper Installer on this wiki page: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+Installer DONE
Community Contributions page was updated during and after Technology Exchange. Thanks to the community members who have added valuable content to help other sites get going and advance with Grouper deployment
There is a request for an easier way to see in the documentation how various campuses are approaching integrating between Grouper and AD or Grouper and Google, etc. Try using Tags in Confluence. AI (Emily) will look into providing better, easier to find, documentation on deployment experiences with Grouper and AD, Grouper and Google Groups, etc. perhaps using Confluence tags
Advance CAMP sessions on Grouper (Oct. 27 and Oct 28, 2014)
1. Grouper Best Practices, notes (Google Doc) at
2. Grouper and Messaging, notes (Google Doc) at
3. COmanage, Grouper and Federated Grouper, notes (Google Doc) at
TIER - project to watch. http://www.internet2.edu/news/detail/5659/
To join the TIER discussion list:
U Colorado Boulder - liked the Technology Exchange, will meet soon with DaveL to move forward with planning for Grouper deployment, thinking Grouper will address several needs.
SCIM, interfaces, & IETF - discuss this at next Grouper-dev call on Nov. 19, 2014
Note: Collaborative Scribing of the Grouper-dev call in a Google doc seemed to work well. Will plan to keep using this approach.
Next Grouper Call : Nov. 19, 2014