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REMINDER Next 2 Grouper Calls: 

    • Tuesday Sept. 6 at noon ET

    •  Thursday Sept. 22 at noon ET


Grouper Call  Aug 24, 2016


AttendingChris Hyzer (chair), Tom Barton, Shilen Patel, Misagh, Emily Eisbruch

Action Items

[AI] (Chris) Configure sources.xml as properties file,

[AI] (Chris) work on ehcache xml (currently in progress)

 [AI]  (Bert) respond to inquiry on Grouper-Users list on June 30  re pspng error,

[AI]  (Chris)  Add to jira or roadmap and talk to Bert and John Gasper re Rules on an individual’s membership),  

[AI] (Bert) Put these in jira: Grace Periods, Membership Rules, People/Account subjects

[AI] (Misagh and Chris) work together on merge of multiple web.xml files for the gradle work 

[AI] (Bert) Create patch for case-sensitivity issue 

[AI]  (Emily) switch Chris’s  Camtasia licence  from PC to MAC

 [AI] Bert and GT team will look at the Grouper Deployment Guide authored by Columbia U , and Bill Thompson, and see how to share the helpful info in it

[AI] (Bert)  document the solution to “turn off old psp issue” that was raised on the list

[AI] (Bert) create Grouper-training videos. wiki has details on how to do the videos.

[AI] (Bert) create PSP-NG Training Video (after necessary patches) using Camtasia


Current work tasks

·      Vivek – TIER API

Vivek and Chris Were on the TIER API call

  • Making progress

  • Can do search and look up subjects

  • Next task : create membership resource types

  • gap in SCIM for

  • Working on create and delete dates

  • There are a few questions for Penn State, which uses SCIM

  • Direction is to use SCIM as designed with TIER extensions on the meta objects

  • the resource types now being created won’t need extensions

  • Making good progress

  • Works with Grouper 2.3

  • Not debating each extension attribute at this point, in the interest of making good progress

  • Q: is there an actual use case at this point?

  • A: TIER components (such as registry and COmanage)  communicating w Grouper

  • Helpful when software as a service people need to communicate w Grouper

Misagh - gradle

  • Struggling with this a bit

  • Does not work well on Chris’s computer

  • Working on it

Bert – PSPNG

  • Need update here

Chris – config overlays, instrumentation collector

Working on ehcache config overlay

Installer will take ehcache XML file and convert to 2 property files:

  1. Base properties file

  2. If anything customized it will go in the overlay

Currently hard for upgrades, if you customize now you have to merge, but this will address that

TIER Instrumentation:

  • Involved having a phone home to send certain data to a collection point

  • Debates on how that will work

  • The Shib project does not want to make code changes now

  • So stand alone Daemon process to go thru Shib logs and send things to the collector

  • There was request to use same approach w Grouper

  • However Chris said Grouper has built in facilities , so don’t want to burden Grouper w another proces

  • Shilen is taking a 1st pass on Grouper instrumentation


  • Shilen working on the daemon to send data to the collector

  • Will make more progress on this later this week

  • Chris also working on the collector part

  • Suggestion: Grouper diagnostics should consider the generic daemon configs when seeing if all daemons have run (Chris put that in wiki)

Shilen – compositeNG indirect, instrumentation

Inherited rule update

  • Shorthand methods now use flattened memberships and the Daemon works

  • It is in 2.4 master,

  • For upgrades to Grouper 2.4, we need to explain the difference in the default rules


·      Bill Thompson harmonize terminology and folder layouts etc (proposal)

  • Will meet alternate Wed. on the week Grouper-Dev does not meet

  • Will start looking at the ABAC document

  • Bill sent out some info to Grouper-Dev

·      Provisioning talk at techex (Bill T, Bert and Chris )

·      TIER Roadmap

             Chis added Grouper info to the TIER project management portal

             Need to transition from 2.3 to Grouper 2.4 and keep updating this progress in the TIER portal

Issue roundup

·      Pspng at penn - issues with connecting with LDAP client, working on this w Bert

·      Pspng build - issue at Penn -

·      Anyone interested in Box integration?

  • Can add people to groups

  • API on back end allows you to manage group memberships, but users are not provisioned to Box until they have logged in once

  • Penn plans to use Just-in-time and Just-in-case

·      Atlassian jira WS connector (help from MD)

Confluence does not yet have REST API, Chris voted for that

·      Could not load gsh class

·      “etc” as default folder - Chris finished a patch for this

·      Cant connect to AD from pspng (Penn)

·      Error with numbers as subject_id (could add an option for that)

·      Social saml gateway issues - resolved now

·      TIER WS authn (note, need to harmonize with grouper WS - Vivek and Chris working on this)

·      Oracle parallelization - used at Penn

·      Caching and WS errors -

·      Assignattributelite WS

· Thanks for these Community Contributions:      

  • University of Wisconsin and University of Colorado Grouper contrib pages - updates coming soon

 Shaun Koh PSPNG errors

·      SSO with CAS (need to followup)

·      Loader threads and pool size

·      University of Colorado - Boulder  Grouper contribution

Internet2 Tech Ex in Miami

  • Grouper BOF at Tech Ex in Miami

Tuesday 9/27/16 2:30PM-3:20PM

  • Grouper Provisioning: Locally and Cloud program session at Tech Ex in Miami

Monday, 09/26/16 10:20AM-11:10AM

Next Two Grouper Calls are Rescheduled (not on Wednesday)

Chris on vacation

  • Emily reschedule

    • Wed Sept 7 Grouper Call for Tuesday Sept 6. at nnon ET

    • Wed Sept 21  Grouper Call for Thursday Sept 22 at noon ET




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