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CACTI call of Tuesday, Feb. 18, 2020



  • Tom Jordan, University of Wisc - Madison (chair) 
  • Jill Gemmill, Clemson  (vice chair) 
  • Marina Adomeit, SUNET
  • Rob Carter, Duke 
  • Matthew Economou, InCommon TAC Representative to CACTI 
  • Michael Grady, Unicon 
  • Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech   
  • Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT  
  • Les LaCroix, Carleton College
  • Chris Phillips, CANARIE 
  • Bill Thompson, Lafayette College


  • Kevin Morooney  
  • Ann West  
  • Steve Zoppi   
  • Jessica Coltrin 
  • Emily Eisbruch  
  • Mike Zawacki


  • Margaret Cullen, Painless Security 
  • Nathan Dors, U Washington  
  • Nick Roy , Internet2


Potential Collaboration with NET+ CSTAAC around cloud issues


EDUCAUSE Security Professionals

    • Jill is on the planning committee for EDUCAUSE Security Professionals conference
    • Planning for 2021 Conference of  EDUCAUSE Security Professionals,
    • 2020 conference is already set
    • Trying to get IAM and Security communities to work a bit more closely. Please share ideas with Jill.
    • Aligns with CACTI workplan goals on CISO engagement and training curriculum / onboarding new community members

IAM Online on Community Plans and Priorities for 2020.  Feb 12, 2020 -

  • Tom Jordan presented on behalf of CACTI, along with chairs of InCommon TAC and CTAB. Slides and recording are available    

2020 Workplan Continued

  • Top-ranked items from the planning sheet:
    1. Value proposition to the CIO / IT / Research communities
    2. CISO engagement
    3. Training curriculum / recruiting + onboarding new community members
    4. Quickstarts / playbooks for Trusted Access Platform components

   Discussion on Workplan items

    • Jill working with EDUCAUSE Security Professionals group
    • REN-ISAC is another group to get involved with, they provide webinars 
    • What should be the relationship between IAM and Security ?
    • At Duke, the top 2 layers of management are now the same for IAM and Security.
      • If IAM is done right, this helps prevent security incursions.  
    • More and more, IAM is coming under the CISO portfolio. 
    • Could be helpful to evaluate the various models.
    • Is there any risk to the collaboration or research priorities when IAM is under the CISO?
    • Virginia Tech started  with IAM under Security office.
      • Then IAM was split out.
      • A reason to be separate  is to emphasize that IAM can enable the business and customers rather than be protective.
    • Could develop 7 things the CISO should know.  TomJ will include that in his discussion started on the email list.
  • Training curriculum / recruiting + onboarding new community members
        • Quickstarts / playbooks for Trusted Access Platform components
        • See slide 23 from Feb 12, 2020 IAM Online
        • Suggestion to first identify the models of how IAM is handled (deployment patterns) .
        • The stellar employee and best curriculum varies depending on the deployment pattern.  
        • Best strategy and practices depends on models that an institution has for IAM on campus
          • buy versus build, cloud strategy, is IAM on the CISO portfolio or in enterprise application portfolio or standalone team, etc.
        • Focus on 
          • helping a hiring manager understand what skills to recruit for,
          • where are the pools to recruit for
          • how to bring new hires up to speed on how HE does IAM IT
        • What does a stellar IT hire looks like?
        • What does IAM curriculum look like?
        • suggestion for 3-5 blog posts on themes of best practices to serve early participants looking for content
          • A report to CACTI might miss the mark, need to do community outreach
        •  Conduct a survey ?
        • What role could this Working Group play in helping to guide IdM as a core capability and discipline?
        • Start with basic IAM questions and IAM best practices
        • Parallel with ACI-REF  facilitating community where some resources were developed with NSF funding,
        • Collaboration Success Program (CSP) touched on some of the same issues
          •  Would be good to harvest from CSP 
        •  2019 ACAMP session around hiring challenges

        • Accreditation and badging could be part of the space
          • Story of an organization developing accreditation for Sysadmins. It did not go terribly well 
          • Encouraging the community to attend BaseCAMP will be helpful
          • InCommon is thinking of a certification for knowing how to install the InCommon Trusted Access software. Highly scoped curriculum.
          • For badges learn from GEANT.  Complement existing activities
          • Use the learning management system GEANT is developing? 

      • AI Jessica will help a subset of CACTI to draft a Community working group on IAM recruiting and hiring
        • Possible temporary working group name:
          • Hiring For IAM working group or
          • IAM Journey working group
        • Suggestion to open membership to this new working group to the  community at large
        • would be helpful to have a rep from the GEANTT project.
        • charter should include timeframe and milestones
        • Chris P is interested in helping with this proposed working group

Next Meeting: Tuesday, March 3rd, 2020


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