Attending 

Members

  • John Bradley, Independent
  • Rob Carter, Duke, (Chair) 
  • Margaret Cullen, Painless Security
  • Stoney Gan, University of South Florida
  • Kevin Hickey, Detroit Mercy 
  • Marina Krenz, REN-ISAC 
  • Jeremy Perkins 
  • Chris Phillips, CANARIE (Vice-Chair)
  • Steven Premeau, InCommon TAC Representative to CACTI
  • Erik Scott, RENCI

Internet2 

  • Nicole Roy
  • David Walker
  • Ann West 
  • Steve Zoppi

Regrets

  • Kevin Morooney
  • Mike Grady
  • Barry Johnson
  • Licia Florio

Action Items

  • (none)

Discussion

Announcements and Updates

    • The group has met and created a good list of issues they want to address, including pain points, etc.
    • Meetings are on alternating Wednesdays; the next is 5/18.
  • Subject identifier adoption group update (Steven P)
    • No update - Mark R could not attend last TAC meeting, so there was no report.
  • IdP as a Service WG (Kevin H)
    • This group is spinning up now - first meeting this week - Kevin agreed to give an update each CACTI call.

Community Update: Margaret Cullen

  • Margaret’s been working in Internet2-related areas since 1987. She now has had a consulting company for 14 years; current clients include IETF and Internet2.
  • Her primary Internet2 work has been on eduroam.
    • Looking at how to integrate eduroam into various campus SSO systems.
    • IdP and SP testing is coming up.
    • The project team has never met in person. It's great how tools like Zoom, Slack, email, etc. make the team productive.

Theme: DID and Wallets

  • Trust and the R&E federations value proposition in the context of DIDs
    • There is a good amount of activity on this in the EU.
    • There’s now a Slack channel for this topic, including EU people. Let Nicole know if you’d like to be added.
    • In North America, there’s not much interest in the community, but federation leadership (e.g., CACTI and TAC) know it's coming.
    • JohnB: The W3C group is predominately interested in verifiable credentials for education, so the meeting at IIW didn’t go well for a discussion of wallets. There hasn't yet been much discussion of interoperability.
    • The InCommon Trust Model whitepaper by David Walker, et al: https://doi.org/10.26869/ti.3.2 
    • We should strive not to reinvent essentially the same federation trust model (as happened with eduroam - for good reason). We should leverage the federation where we can without recreating it.
    • Jeremy: Instructure has been working on many of these concerns with a focus on the institutions that issue “badges” representing academic achievements. https://support.badgr.com/en/knowledge
    • Margaret in chat: “It might be good to start with the question of what we want to use the IDs (and badges?) in the wallet for? Are they used to authenticate a particular human? To authorize a human to do something? Or just to prove that this is the same human who accessed the site earlier? Are they intended to identify a person in the real world? Or should they be privacy-preserving? Is payment part of this? Or am I being confused by the term ‘wallet’?”

Communications strategy: Preparing for blog posts, etc. 

  • (Ran out of time.)


Next Meeting: Tuesday, May 24, 2022

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