CACTI notes of Thursday, December 8, 2022

CACTI Working Meeting at 2022 TechEx

Leadership: Rob Carter, Duke University (Chair); Chris Phillips, CANARIE (Vice-Chair)

Note taker: Nicole Roy

Attendees: Rob Carter, Mike Grady, Don Hamparian, Dave Shafer, Erik Scott, Nicole Roy, Sara Jeanes, Steven Premeau, Tom Jordan, Shilen Patel, Margaret Cullen, Michael Gettes, Maarten Kremers, Richard Frovarp, Gabor Eszes, Drew Aschenbrener, Judith Bush, Andy Morgan, Niels Van Dijk, Mark Donnelly

Reminders

  1. Transparency is a critical part of CACTI's duty to the community. Please promptly approve, edit (or indicate reason for disapproval) of minutes after they are posted.

Pre-Read Materials: 

  1. 20221207-ChrisPhillipsRobCarter-TandIOutlook2022.pptx
  2. The TAP Reference Architecture (RA)

Action Item Review:

 Agenda

  1. Administrivia
    1. Please say your name when you start to speak, until we learn each others' voices
    2. Please ask colleagues to define terms, expand acronyms, etc, until we learn each others' jargon
    3. It's ok to challenge your colleagues in pursuit of quality of discourse. Hopefully in a nice way
    4. Please disclose any conflicts of interest you may have in any of the agenda topics, and potentially excuse yourself from the relevant conversations
    5. Please use the CACTI scribing doc
    6. Internet2 Intellectual Property Agreement reminder
    7. CACTI Charter pointer
    8. Agreements:
    9. Volunteer(s) to scribe (new standing item)
    10. Agenda bash
  2. Main Business
    1. 2022 retrospective (follow on to the Wednesday presentation) and 2023 topic brainstorm  (continuation of that conversation with the benefit of community input)
      1. Clear 2023 priorities
        1. FedCM and SAML session initiation
        2. Wallet / verifiable credential “stuff”
        3. IdP-as-a-Service, TAP-as-a-Service, etc.
          1. Grouper-as-a-Service
          2. IdP-as-a-Service
            1. GÉANT had IdPaaS service but shut it down due to lack of demand. Lots of NRENs run this for their own federations, lots more just using proxies.
          3. Priorities of these versus, say, the FedCM (browser privacy) and verifiable credentials stuff? 
        4. Need an ACAMP in the EU
        5. Need to figure out how to do outreach/participation in IETF/W3C
        6. Need to figure out how to interoperate more efficiently with REFEDS
        7. REFEDS and CACTI get together and start a WG to focus on this and figure out how to liaise with IETF and/or W3C group(s)
        8. People’s availability is a big challenge - need to be able to pay people to attend these meetings, and not just that, but be able to know enough/synthesize enough to be able to have meaningful cross-boundary impacts. Task people with missions. 
        9. Open community architecture call once or twice a month, rule that the conversations have to be something that was started on the previous call (Suggestion from Ken Klingenstein and Leif Johansson)
    2. Feedback on the TAP component architect recommendations for 2023

Next Meeting: Tuesday, January 17, 2023



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