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  • Chris Phillips, CANARIE  (chair) 
  • Tom Barton, U Chicago  
  • Rob Carter, Duke 
  • Nathan Dors, U Washington  
  • Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech  
  • Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College  
  • Tom Jordan, U Wisc - Madison   
  • Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT  
  • Les LaCroix, Carleton College   


  • Kevin Morooney  
  • Ann West  
  • Emily Eisbruch 


  • Ann Harding, SWITCH/GEANT 
  • Jill Gemmill, Clemson   
  • Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO 
  • Steve Zoppi, Internet2


Working Group Reports

Working Group Reports are collected here: 

For future discussion:

  • Best process on passing the working group reports along to CACTI. 
  • Is quarterly rather than monthly working group reporting sufficient?

FIM4R Gap Analysis and Recommendations Work 

  • Updates on latest   outreach to InCommon TAC, CTAB, TIER Component Architects
  • ChrisP met with AnnW, Mark Scheible, Janemarie Duh, DavidW and others about the FIM4R gaps/response process.   Plan is for DavidW to develop a skeleton doc for the response.  Need to engage CACTI with the working groups (Component Architects and CTAB) and DavidW.   
  • Karen and Jill have a plan to reach out and collect feedback.   
  • Component Architects meet every 2 weeks on Monday.  Next call is Monday Aug 20. 
  • [AI] Emily set up call with Karen, Jill, DavidW, ChrisP to discuss steps forward for FIM4R gap analysis/response. DONE
  • Introduction of CACTI-discuss list for public outreach and discussion of CACTI related topics 

FIM4R blog:

Review OIDF R&E Charter for feedback

  • Link to Charter:
  • 92 votes so far, voting extended for 1 week, ending today. 
  • Active “get the vote out” effort]
  • Uninet (Andreas) has proposed a new potential approach, there may be attempts to harmonize the two approaches
  • See:Topic-OpenIDConnect and OpenID Foundation 
  • A working group charter is being circulated for a R&E working group in OPENID Foundation.
  • Nathan has raised questions about using “edu”.  Suggested that R&E be in top level communication to emphasize the research aspect.  It was agreed the charter should refer to R&E.   
  • Suggestion to call out more clearly in the charter the affiliations of those involved 
  • Suggestion to be clearer in charter about liaison relationships.  
    • Add  IGTF to the list. 
    • Add a few of the research communities that some of the proposers listed represent
  • One style of federation architecture or many? (Mesh, hub and spoke, proxying)
  • All approaches in the R&E community should be integrated, focus on trust and diverse scopes of authority 
  • There are many angles in federation architecture and there is a need to experiment. 
  • We are at start of new era in technical approaches. 
  • Need several activities and discussion among those involved.
  • REFEDs Federation 2.0 group could be the central point of meeting and discussion
  • Barrier to entry has been complexity of SAML. OPENID Connect is intended to make it easier and may solve more use cases than SAML   
  • However, federation operators often need to support all the needs of researchers, so need to support both SAML and OPENID Connect, need a foot in every pond, and there are increasing standards/ponds
  • Would be good to raise up a level, find an overlay, a more general federation architecture approach,   Edugain will need to wrestle with this. 
  • Christos: OpenID Connect tries to remap the federation landscape. 
  • This is a good conversation for Open CACTI meeting at 2018 TechEx
  • Subsets will be interesting, such as SIFTFI relationship with OPENID connect.  Interoperability is key. 

MACE Dir Transition Status: Progressing 

TechEx in Orlando: 5 CACTI meetings left

Next CACTI Call: Tuesday, Aug. 21, 2018