Attending
Members
- Chris Phillips, CANARIE (chair)
- Warren Anderson, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee /LIGO
- Rob Carter, Duke
- Nathan Dors, U Washington,
- Jill Gemmill, Clemson
- Ann Harding, SWITCH/GEANT
- Karen Herrington, Virginia Tech
- Tom Jordan, U Wisc - Madison
Internet2
- Kevin Morooney
- Steve Zoppi
- Emily Eisbruch
Regrets
- Les LaCroix, Carleton College
- Todd Higgins, Franklin & Marshall College
Christos Kanellopoulos, GEANT
Tom Barton, U Chicago
Ann West, Internet2
Agenda
- Action items: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/GoPdBg (Updated Aug 6 )
- MACE-DIR sunsetting and eduPerson transition
- Keith Hazelton and David Bantz, MACE-Dir chairs, have been working on the Sunsetting MACE-Dir process. There has been a process to define the requirements as we transition eduPerson to REFEDs. We hope to share with REFEDs Steering the requirements for the best curation of eduPerson.
- Please review proposed final eduPerson requirements document for discussion
- Q: What about VO Person?
- Keith Hazelton and David Bantz, MACE-Dir chairs, have been working on the Sunsetting MACE-Dir process. There has been a process to define the requirements as we transition eduPerson to REFEDs. We hope to share with REFEDs Steering the requirements for the best curation of eduPerson.
- Answer: MACE-DIR/Internet2 has no purview over the VOPerson item. We suggest to the authors of VOPerson to bring it to REFEDs like we are doing with eduPerson
- Should have some feedback from REFEDs within a few weeks.
- Chris will keep CACTI informed.
- Open ID Foundation Research and Education Profile working group & footprint within T&I
- https://github.com/daserzw/oidc-edu-wg/blob/master/charter.md
- Feedback about participation and recommendations sought regarding participation
- Recent vote brought to light the fact that the R&E community needs better representation in the OPENID Foundation.
- Where do we foresee the OPENID foundation work continuing?
- REFEDS OIDC RE list https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/OIDCre
- Issues of cycles and capacity
- Nathan raised on REFEDs OIDC RE list High level questions related to GEANT extension
- Rob interested in the use cases, where will OPENID be used versus where SAML is being used?
- If OIDC should be easier than SAML, then some things may fall out of the use case because in fact they’ll be harder under OIDC
- Important to understand primary use cases
- CACTI can decide what it wants to do to support the needs
- InCommon OAUTH/OIDC Working Group should not continue indefinitely https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/jJiTBg
- Nathan and KenK may have some discussions around consent work and connection to OPENID Connect
- Common question:
- Should I be doing SAML in multilateral or just OPENID Connect? Azure use cases raise this question.
- Also Okta raises this question https://www.okta.com/customers/
- Some smaller campuses are adopting IAM products that don’t consume federation metadata. Those take the federation metadata and register many bilateral agreements.
- Multilateral federation is under threat
- This is related to FIM4R work and the non-web topic.
- A new WG will be created in OPEN ID Foundation to address the needs. The trust and identity community needs to define the effort.
- Answer: MACE-DIR/Internet2 has no purview over the VOPerson item. We suggest to the authors of VOPerson to bring it to REFEDs like we are doing with eduPerson
- Outreach and engaging research platforms
- Pacific Research Platform (Larry Smarr and CENIC) -
- Conferences in Bozeman, Montana, Ken attended 2017, Jill attended in 2018
- greenfield, creating new capabilities https://prp.ucsd.edu/
- Largely network focused, but eventually trust and identity issues will become important (who has access to the data assets? etc)
- Conferences in Bozeman, Montana, Ken attended 2017, Jill attended in 2018
- Eastern Research Platform - centered around existing capabilities
- National Research Platform
- Explore how to expand our reach to benefit other areas such as Pacific Research Platform and other efforts.
- Minimizing firewalls to support research, getting barriers out of the way
- Taking a local DMZ to a national scale
- SteveZ, AnnW and Ken have had early conversations with Eastern? Research Network leaders
- Some struggle to get trust and identity topic well represented in the conversations.
- CACTI members should be aware of / watch conversations on these research platforms.
- FIM4R Recommendations Progress
- Hope to have available by TechEx in Oct for a way for community members to submit their own FIM4R response input.
- Would like a mini report card from people on how we are doing on certain areas
- David Walker is coordinating a meeting with Chris, Karen, Jill to discuss FIM4R response.
- Component architects call Wed. Sept. 5 will focus on FIM4R response.
- TechEx in Orlando: 2 CACTI calls meetings left before Orlando
- Upcoming CACTI meetings: Tues. Sept 18, Tues. Oct 2,
- open CACTI meeting at TechEx in Orlando (Thursday, Oct 18 at lunch )
- https://meetings.internet2.edu/2018-technology-exchange/detail/1000524
- Proposed topics
- FIM4R assessment
- State/next steps of Sunset for MACE-DIR
- Next Call: Tuesday, Sept. 18, 2018