Notes: TIER Ad Hoc Advisory call Feb. 26 2016

 

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Notes and Action Items from TIER Ad Hoc Advisory Group, Friday, Feb. 26, 2016

 

Action Items:

 

  • [AI] (Ken) take the draft CAPE charter to the next MACE call.
  • [AI] (All) please review and add comments to the Doc Stewardship draft.
  • [AI] (Keith) follow up with Bill Thompson on Bill taking charge of developing Grouper Reference Architecture Practices
  • [AI] (Keith) decide about inviting Warren to an Ad Hoc Advisory call

 

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Attending: Tom, Helen, Keith, Nick, Emily, Jim, Paul, Ken, Jacob, SteveZ

 

Discussion\ 
CAPE Charter (draft) & MACE Recharter (draft)

 

For CAPE charter, Tom made some changes to address concerns that had been expressed.

 

   Doc about integrating MACE and CAPE 

 

  Ken notes 1)  different membership models between MACE and CAPE and 2) MACE focuses more on international collaboration

 

Helen: membership term of CAPE is stated as 3 years. Will this be staggered?

 

Tom: yes

 

Tom removed the membership requirements that dictated the number of reps from various constituencies.

 

There is a term limit for the chair.  This can be renewed.

 

Future of MACE-Dir: can we move MACE-Dir into the TIER space?

 

Keith: this is a good time to internationalize the MACE-Dir work and find an international sponsor. We could spin up an Interfederation Schema Working Group and migrate the MACE-Dir activity into that group.

 

Discussion of putting eduPerson and SCHAC in the same governance body.

 

Could be under REFEDs or Internet2 can own these activities and make them open to the international community

 

Ken: there is some complexity with language etc.

 

Keith: there needs to be an international discussion about mechanisms for this work and how to make things international.

 

CAPE might spin up a Schema working group and then the conversation can go forward on the internationalization.

 

Nick: Heather Flanagan has looked at international governance structures.

 

REFEDs does not have an IPR.

 

CAPE can be a place of last resort for doing things that do not fall under TAC, etc

 

Ken will work on some logistical guidelines for CAPE and how the discussions will take place.

 

Tom will make this a sharable draft

 

Decision: OK to declare fusion between MACE and CAPE

 

Ken suggests that we run the CAPE charter by Leif.

 

[AI] (Ken) will take the CAPE charter to the next MACE call.

 

Tom: the name CAPE may change

 

From the Ad Hoc Advisory Group Charter Deliverables:

 

  • Develop charter for the standing Community Architecture Planning and Engagement (CAPE) - Goals:
      - have the charter for CAPE developed by January 2016;
      - end this ad-hoc group and convene CAPE in March 2016 or earlier.


 

Trust and Identity Document Stewardship

 

David Walker, Tom, and Ann helped develop this draft. Does it say the right things? Is this helpful? Does it address the set of problems and needs that it should?

 

[AI] (All) please review and add comments to the Doc Stewardship draft.

 

Note that the doc has boldface metadata. We have finished the author phase. Now starting the review phase.

 

Introduce “Grouper Reference Architecture Recommendations for Groups and Folders”, from Bill Thompson (Keith)

 

Bill’s vision seems close to Tom’s vision of access management through Grouper

 

Tom: this is a good case in point for doc stewardship. Bill may want to submit a document with recommendations for Grouper Reference Architecture (perhaps after chairing a working group). CAPE could sponsor the working group and  and figure out how to help get the resulting doc reviewed and published.

 

Could this Grouper Reference Architecture help with or be part of TIER packaging?

 

Tom: this could start as a White Paper from Bill. CAPE Practice could curate it and make it findable. The document might end up looking like the  LDAP recipe and Practices in Directory Groups

 

[AI] (Keith) will follow up with Bill T on Bill T taking charge of developing Grouper Ref Architecture Practices

 

Updates from the TIER Working Groups

 

 Security and Audit WG

 

Helen: there is a need to understand the skill level of people working on TIER with

 

  • OAUTH
  • Cloud Security
  • InCommon Assurance standards (there is overlap here with NIST standards)

 

Need to know how conversant the community is on those standards.  Will need to do some training and awareness.

 

Ken: NASA has assessment technology methodology for software readiness. Tom says GEANT has adopted same framework for software readiness.

Ken: sustainability might be part of software readiness

 

Helen: operational readiness and maturity is a goal,

 

including how to handle security incidents, change management, etc.

 

Most likely operational readiness will be focus in 2nd part of 2016.

 

Current focus of the Security and Audit WG is on code development.

 

Entity Registries WG and API WG

 

  • Should we invite Warren to an upcoming Ad Hoc Architects call?

    • SteveZ says invite Warren as needed

    • Keith decide about inviting Warren to an Ad Hoc Advisory call

  • There is a list of deliverables near the top of the WG wiki page that will be ready for wider review by March 4

 

API WG

 

  • There is a list of deliverables near the top of the WG wiki page that will be ready for wider review by March 4

  • Chris Hyzer’s and Benn Oshrin’s work over the last several years is providing a solid foundation on which these deliverables are being built.

 

Packaging

 

    • Focused on a Docker-based distribution for TIER components leveraging Jenkins and Packer for automation.  A weekly build process will be used.

    • We will provide a configured CoreOS VM to run the containers for those who need it.

    • Container and testbed build work starting now.

    • Likely use a modified version of the CANARIE IdP installer to build Shibboleth site configurations.

    • Focus for next week is Grouper initial configuration.

    • See: http://bit.ly/1XNvSmC

  • Jacob: what about addressing the dependencies of the components?

  • Jim: This will be addressed later, not for 1st TIER release

 

  • Tom: good idea to have the weekly build process.

  • Steve: pleased with the experience that the Packaging WG members have brought to the packaging issues

  

Component Architects

 

  •  Steve: nailing the landing pad for April 2016 TIER release

  • Getting coalesced version of the components is a big step

 

 


Next call: Friday, March 11,  2016 at 3pm ET

 

 

 

 

 

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