Scribing Template --Wed., Nov 13, 2013 at 10:15am -- Salons A-D

TOPIC: SCIM - What do you want from it, what do you need from it

CONVENER: Chris Phillips

SCRIBE: None offered, none chosen. Notes by Chris

# of ATTENDEES: ~25 ppl? This was the large room and front tables were occupied 

MAIN ISSUES DISCUSSED:

SCIM and the latest developments were explored. Specifically the enhancement to the entitlement attributes that is in the core schema changing from simple multivalued to a SCIM complex attribute.

General Items

Clarity around where SCIM plays is in need.  

Some wrestled with the concepts that is low level versus sophisticated solution that has advanced logic.  

Possible work?

Questions were asked if I2 should do a library implementation of SCIM.

Comments led toward doing an environment scan first.(ie. avoid if at all possible, only if necessary as far as I recall)

The library chosen would have to be opensource (like openSAML -- openSCIM?) and unencumbered with restrictions beyond the normal for Higher Education.

It was also difficult to answer the questions about who has implemented SCIM and the availability of libraries for the community.  

People were guided to the https://simplecloud.info website and can see 'implementations' as a starting point.

A bit lower level, but stepping up the stack a bit - what about a verb like 'sync'?

A chunk of time was spent on 'sync' or replication.  One ask was 'Can I just have the ability to use a verb like 'synchronize' from here to there'?

Discussion ensued about the 'business logic' to do so and what was/should be outside the scope of SCIM.

Reconciliation was desired but not enough time was available and more people in the room would have been of benefit.

ACTIVITIES GOING FORWARD / NEXT STEPS:

Bring some of these items to the SCIM IETF group (like through ChrisP)

Hear from Grouper who may be doing an environment scan and potentially exploring the fit into CIFER work.

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